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Posted: 21 Nov 17, 20:13 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Doesn't matter whether or not you care about QAL - just curious as to what the readers of this board think...

Arguments for:
- Frontman for a Queen collaboration (performing with established rock stars)

Arguments against:
- Little-to-no rock material of his own prior to or after his stints with QAL
- Lack of energy/charisma; poor reciprocity with audiences
- Voice better suited for musical theatre (West End-type or Broadway)
- Lacks grit for proper hard rock
- Poor control/balance of camp persona onstage - overdone
- Unintentionally awkward stage banter
- Inadequate discipline for tours (cannot remember lyrics, etc.)
- Cannot play any musical instruments (debatable as a necessary trait for any rock star, but putting it here for the sake of completeness)

Anything else to add to either list?

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Posted: 21 Nov 17, 20:34 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Magnetic personality and charisma!

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Posted: 21 Nov 17, 21:14 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

No. But this is the era of idiot rappers male and female calling themselves rock stars.

U can equate lifestyle and success levels but there's nothing disciplined about any writing or instrumentation from the like even warranting rock star status. It means you PLAY in a ROCK BAND.

He's essentially a hired gun until they release something. I wouldn't say he's very charismatic either. ..his fans pander to him, which actually HURTS any growth there


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Posted: 21 Nov 17, 21:15 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Short answer...no.

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Posted: 21 Nov 17, 22:35 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

He sings in a tribute act is all.


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Posted: 21 Nov 17, 22:48 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Fuck you haters! You are all PUSSIES. I could write more but "no time for losers."

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Posted: 21 Nov 17, 23:13 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Funny that someone by the name 'GrowUpGlamberts' feels the need to actually post a thread and cannot be bothered having objective arguments.
It's ok if you don't like somebody. No need to make such a big deal of it.
Why don't you get yourself a nice t-shirt with 'Í Hate Adam Lambert' on it.


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Posted: 22 Nov 17, 00:01 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Uh oh GuG. Now you have done it. You have sweetcaroline promoting his charisma etc, you have upset pankekestnotstellar, and you managed to get two people bleating on about 'haters'...all without you or anyone else saying they hate AL in this thread!

Tell me your secret/s how you do that .??

Kidding aside, you have very valid points GuG.

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Posted: 22 Nov 17, 00:59 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

To GrowUpGlamberts:

Pretty much everything on that pros and cons list applies to Freddie Mercury circa 1974 and prior.

So yea, Adam Lambert is a rock star based on your definition. Unless you’re willing to argue Freddie wasn’t by then.

Do better next time.

And no, I’m not a Glambert. I saw him live and while I wouldn’t see him without Brian and Roger on stage, I believe he does an excellent job in filling in best he can for arguably the greatest front man of all time.


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Posted: 22 Nov 17, 01:02 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Glam rocker with the best of them, including Mercury, Bowie, Elvis, Bono and Michael Jackson!


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Posted: 22 Nov 17, 01:13 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

BobbytheCat wrote:
Why don't you get yourself a nice t-shirt with 'Í Hate Adam Lambert' on it.



I don't hate Adam. He can sing. Maybe not my cup of tea, but I won't begrudge him personally on his talent alone. His discipline is another story. It's a subset of his fans (the ones who feel the need to propagandize for him) that get on my nerves.

Jimmy Dean wrote:
Unless you’re willing to argue Freddie wasn’t by then.



I am willing to concede that. He definitely had a rock star attitude before then, but it took him time to ease into his role... certainly less time than it has for Adam with the remaining active members of Queen.

SweetCaroline wrote:
Glam rocker with the best of them, including Mercury, Bowie, Elvis, Bono and Michael Jackson!



lol

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Posted: 22 Nov 17, 03:16 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Elvis, MJ and Bono glam rockers LOL.
At least Freddie proved himself in the rock world. AL hasn't. And he never will while riding on Brian's and Roger's coattails.

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Posted: 22 Nov 17, 04:18 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Adam who ?


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Posted: 22 Nov 17, 05:08 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Adam has more than proved himself in Queen world!

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Posted: 22 Nov 17, 05:18 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

GrowUpGlamberts wrote:

Jimmy Dean wrote:
Unless you’re willing to argue Freddie wasn’t by then.



I am willing to concede that. He definitely had a rock star attitude before then, but it took him time to ease into his role... certainly less time than it has for Adam with the remaining active members of Queen.


Right, but Adam is not a full time member of Queen. Nor is Queen a full time band. He only tours with them when they get the itch. So that could explain it. He doesn't have the same experience level.

And to be fair, no, i don't think Adam Lambert has the potential to get to the same level Freddie Mercury. But after watching Adam in action - he pulls off a Queen show with relative ease. Look at the "rock stars" try to pull off Queen songs at the FM Tribute show. Adam makes it look comparably easy. Right, he rehearses the material more often but at the same time - a lot of those guys had much more stage time.

At this moment, I wouldn't rather another front man filling in for Adam Lambert. Gary Cherone or Matthew Bellamy may prove interesting but exhaustive in the long run. Adam Lambert still feels like he has to prove something.



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Posted: 22 Nov 17, 05:20 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

No he hasn't proved himself in the Queen world. Has he put his emotion into writing and producing the songs for years? No, and that's just one thing.
Seriously, the bullshit you come out with to promote Adam, sweetcaroline...it's so far out there, it's hysterical.

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Posted: 22 Nov 17, 05:26 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Don't forget sweetcaroline, your reasoning on QOL. " Life isn't fair so AL has taken the financial opportunity to tour with Queen ".
One of your last posts before your ban. By you saying that, you make it seem AL is n t for the money and nothing else.

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Posted: 22 Nov 17, 06:01 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

AL is nothing but a footnote in Queen history.

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Posted: 22 Nov 17, 10:12 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Rock NO!!!! , POP and a bit Glamrock YES. Using your microfone and pretend it's a cock your lickin'and putting in your ass various times during a live show of Queen+AL is not what I see in a ROCKSTAR.


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