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Posted: 22 Mar 19, 03:10 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

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They will never spend that money in their life time they are old now what can they do once they are gone we all turn to dust we cant take money with us.If the shoe were on the other foot do yo think Freddie would sell a fake story about them I think not.Everyone wants money but they have rode his skirt tails as long as they could they could've told the truth and the film would've been just as sucessful.They are basically using his name only and building a character they think he should've been.Thats an terrible thing to do to someone if you feel a certain way about someones sexuality be man enough to say it to their face dont wait 27 years when your bank account gets low and write a phony script on how you wish they were because its disgusting and this person trusted you with everything after death including their legacy.


... but the great grandchildren need the money.

Brian hates rich fat cats who did not earn their money, but his children and grandchildren will become fat cats.


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Posted: 22 Mar 19, 03:20 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XC2RfXMkrT0

I linked to this interview previously, but it is Brian and Roger speaking just one week after Freddie died. They acknowledge that Joe, Jim, and Phoebe were the ones taking care of Freddie, and acknowledge point blank that Freddie was gay.

I think a sequel would be a terrible idea. I know significant events happened after Live Aid, but I think the timeline of the film was fine.

I also listened to an interview with Phoebe where he said he did not need to himself directly portrayed in the film because he sees his influence as an advisor throughout the film in things like certain dialogue etc.


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Posted: 22 Mar 19, 03:32 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I have seen the interview as well but the sequel should be facts not lies if so it is more of a fairytale than actual events to portray someone caring for him rather than who did and that could be the case if this sequel comes to pass .Film truth not fantasy.

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Posted: 22 Mar 19, 03:38 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I dont think Freddie would want Jim the love of his life his final years and a part of who he was to be portrayed as they did .That's not what he meant by dont make me boring he said on one occasion if they are gonna do a story on him show warts and all he wasnt ashamed of who he was it makes you wonder were they.

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Posted: 22 Mar 19, 04:30 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

CHEVYMAN,

I have yet to make a comment about the supposed BR sequel. You must be responding to someone else's post.





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Posted: 22 Mar 19, 12:03 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Rainbow I'm sorry yes I was responding to someone else my mistake I must have been looking or thinking about one of your post forgive me.At leat I was thinking of you ha ha much love sorry.

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Posted: 22 Mar 19, 15:41 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Villiers. .....i keep missing your lives!! Will you have the YouTube page ready soon???? You have covered so many topics that I have missed but DESPERATELY wanted to hear and absorb!!!
.......waiting with anticipation!!!
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Posted: 22 Mar 19, 16:20 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

CHEVYVAN,

No problem...we're good!

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Posted: 22 Mar 19, 16:44 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

They will absolutely show Mary crying at his bedside caring for him in the sequel, even though she was not his caretaker. Joe, Jim and Phoebe deserve better

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Posted: 22 Mar 19, 18:22 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Yep at least after this sequel that will be it nothing else they can do.Im gonna be honest with everyone and put my cards on the table I dont care for Mary at all I think she was deceitful from day one how could you say you dont love someone for the first 3 years of you relationship and then they get fame and money then you love them and become joined at the hip .She even picks out the mans home for him I'm sure he asked her too bit still that's crazy.They portray her as almost a virgin Mary with not a mean bone in her body innocent I dont buy it.He was from Parsi parents they are very modest and strict with their children she left home at 15 she was a street wise young lady who knew the ropes if anything it was the other way around .She smiled to his friends faces and abided her time till the end.That is the truth they should put in this sequel but they wont.

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Posted: 22 Mar 19, 18:23 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Yep at least after this sequel that will be it nothing else they can do.Im gonna be honest with everyone and put my cards on the table I dont care for Mary at all I think she was deceitful from day one how could you say you dont love someone for the first 3 years of you relationship and then they get fame and money then you love them and become joined at the hip .She even picks out the mans home for him I'm sure he asked her too bit still that's crazy.They portray her as almost a virgin Mary with not a mean bone in her body innocent I dont buy it.He was from Parsi parents they are very modest and strict with their children she left home at 15 she was a street wise young lady who knew the ropes if anything it was the other way around .She smiled to his friends faces and abided her time till the end.That is the truth they should put in this sequel but they wont.

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Posted: 22 Mar 19, 18:23 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Yep at least after this sequel that will be it nothing else they can do.Im gonna be honest with everyone and put my cards on the table I dont care for Mary at all I think she was deceitful from day one how could you say you dont love someone for the first 3 years of you relationship and then they get fame and money then you love them and become joined at the hip .She even picks out the mans home for him I'm sure he asked her too bit still that's crazy.They portray her as almost a virgin Mary with not a mean bone in her body innocent I dont buy it.He was from Parsi parents they are very modest and strict with their children she left home at 15 she was a street wise young lady who knew the ropes if anything it was the other way around .She smiled to his friends faces and abided her time till the end.That is the truth they should put in this sequel but they wont.

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Posted: 22 Mar 19, 18:24 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Yep at least after this sequel that will be it nothing else they can do.Im gonna be honest with everyone and put my cards on the table I dont care for Mary at all I think she was deceitful from day one how could you say you dont love someone for the first 3 years of you relationship and then they get fame and money then you love them and become joined at the hip .She even picks out the mans home for him I'm sure he asked her too bit still that's crazy.They portray her as almost a virgin Mary with not a mean bone in her body innocent I dont buy it.He was from Parsi parents they are very modest and strict with their children she left home at 15 she was a street wise young lady who knew the ropes if anything it was the other way around .She smiled to his friends faces and abided her time till the end.That is the truth they should put in this sequel but they wont.

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Posted: 22 Mar 19, 18:30 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Hooligan agree with you totally.but they can do no more after this sequel.I have to be honest I dont by the Mary they portray sweet innocent modest young lady that everybody loves. She left home at 15 found a young immigrant Indian parsi that was raised by strict parents who longed for love and acceptance.I grew up in a native American family and very strict parents as well just like he did.And she manipulated him she is a liar cheat and as dishonest as anyone else .She said herself she didnt fall in love for 3 years .That's really when he started to become famous.

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Posted: 22 Mar 19, 21:18 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Over the course of this thread there have been numerous, and sometimes extremely intense, conversations about Mary. At this point, it seems to be one of those “agree to disagree” topics. No matter what our perspective is, we can all probably acknowledge that Mary meant a lot to Freddie and that he chose to maintain a close relationship with her throughout his life.

As far as a BR sequel….I can’t get upset about something that hasn’t happened yet and probably never will. The here and now is of much greater interest! For example, I read that the Freddie birthday party tickets have sold out already…and that was after they added extra tickets. That means more money for the Mercury Phoenix Trust. YEAH! That wonderful joie de vivre of Freddie continues to bring people together and work its magic.


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Posted: 22 Mar 19, 22:46 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I dont think anyone would disagree with the fact Mary meant alot to him as a great life long friend slash x lover.i just mean This sequel is being strongly talked about and if it happens it wont be like the first because it's all about the $.What I'm continuing to support and not back down from is the fact I hope it gives those three men 2 of them passed away now and one still living the credit they deserve they are the ones that cared for him in the end they changed soiled sheets gave baths helped him eat that's hard work and hard to see your loved one slipping away.If they can show a relationship that died after a few years and completely ignore a man that was someone true love their rock surely they can depict who cared for him in the end on the big screen.

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Posted: 23 Mar 19, 00:47 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I've always wished I could attend the birthday party. I think it would be such an intensely joyful experience. It's a bonus that Mercury Phoenix Trust benefits.

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Posted: 23 Mar 19, 01:44 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Mingling with super-enthusiastic Freddie fans, soaking in the beauty of Montreux, the excitement of a birthday party, and the ever jovial Phoebe as host seems like a winning combination. Knowing the money goes to a great cause makes it even better. I would also love to attend. I have to say though, I would enjoy going to Montreux when it is quieter so that I can take it all in without the distraction of so much activity. Sitting near Freddie's statue and looking out on the lake is something I would rather do alone.

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Posted: 23 Mar 19, 02:07 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Yes it's a captivating place I can see why he liked it so much and why it holds so many peaceful memories.