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Posted: 07 Apr 19, 15:44 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

katy .... Brian also promoted Jim's book on his webpage when it was released onto Kindle in 2013. I feel that Brian felt Jim was a very good influence on Freddie.

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Posted: 07 Apr 19, 18:26 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Brian pretty famously said he never read Jim's book and wouldn't read it because he did not back books on Freddie's perosnal life. Where did you hear that he promoted it? He liked Jim for sure but..

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Posted: 07 Apr 19, 18:26 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Katydyd5 and doughnut…

Yes, Freddie has such expressive hands. During concert videos, I find myself watching his hands while playing the piano and especially when he is holding a microphone. Many performers now seem to favor the hands-free headset kind of microphone...I just cannot picture Freddie ever having made that change.

I ALWAYS enjoy Freddie’s interviews...that wonderful speaking voice and those beautiful eyes...a captivating combination to be sure. Freddie could have been interviewed about the bathroom sinks in the various hotels he stayed at and he still would have been interesting. Few people have that magic...Freddie had it in spades!

(There are a couple of interviews where Freddie rolls his eyes at some question or comment he doesn’t care for…those interviews always crack me up!)


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Posted: 07 Apr 19, 18:33 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Sorry but I'm not sure that is true Doe...Jim was a great bloke and did stay in contact with Brian but he was a little hurt that Brian didn't want to read his book. I don't see why he would promote a book he refused to read. Are you sure it wasn't his facebook page that is run by a trusted fan? I recall his Facebook page once mentioning Lesley Ann Jones and I think we all know he doesn't support that. One of those "On this day 12 years ago this book was released". I don't remember seeing that page ever mention Jim's book but it has said things about his passing.

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Posted: 07 Apr 19, 18:43 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Met Brian out in LA at book soup during his Queen in 3D book tour. That was about 2 years ago-ish. Naturally felt compelled to ask about the movie and asked if anything was going to be based off of Jim's book and he replied "Never read it, mate. We won't be using it."

No way Brian himself ever backed it up. Jim also said something about Jim Beach being really annoyed that he wrote it. Jim was pretty open at the conventions on England about it. He essentially got closed out of what they call "the queen family" for writing that book. Queen Productions was pissed. Anything gay seems to piss them off. I hear they weren't thrilled with Freestone's book either.

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Posted: 07 Apr 19, 18:59 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I saw it on Brian may's soapbox webpage. To be fair Brian must have changed his opinion over the years regarding his private life; hence the recent film. The reason I found it is because I found a recent interview with Tim Wapshot and he said that Brian had promoted the kindle release. That's when I did some research to find it.
I know that his fb page is fun on his behalf .

I imagine queen /Jim beach was pissed. I feel.sure he wanted to promote the Freddie non gay wholesome image.

I've seen photos of Brian with Lesley Ann Jones



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Posted: 07 Apr 19, 19:00 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Rainbow I to could listen to Freddie talk about anything and the rolling eyes crack me up too

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Posted: 07 Apr 19, 19:10 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Lol yeah you've seen photos with Brian and Lesley. She went to his shows and book signings like everyone else. Hilarious that she tried to crop them and act like they were just hanging out. As if we weren't all at the same events. Got a link to the soapbox because he literally told me he didn't read the book. He also said it on multiple other occasions and sorry but there was nothing about that movie that included anything truthful about Mercurys persona life lol. So we really can't claim Brian changed his mind based on the film.

In 2016 Brian posted on his soapbox that he tried to the John Blunt docudrama cancelled. Asked Jacky and she said he furious about the inaccuracies and that Lesley Jones was in it. They weren't pals.

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Posted: 07 Apr 19, 19:18 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I'm trying to find it now in his 2013 soapbox. Lol so far it's all reading like: Badgers, knee surgery, badgers, space stuff, someone covers queen songs, badgers, lions, space, fan made art, space stuff and badgers.

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Posted: 07 Apr 19, 19:32 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Thanks for all the nice responses regarding my last post, guys. Sharing personal stories like that one is a bit out of my comfort zone, but I'm really glad I did it :)

Regarding Jim Beach's (and apparently Brian's) displeasure over Jim's and Peter's books...it's the first time I've heard of it, but I'm not surprised. Queen is a huge business, and as with any company, the main goal of the people who manage it is for it to prosper and make as much money as possible. It would seem Beach's job is to protectand further the Queen brand, even at the expense of the truth or sensibilities of those who were close to Freddie. Maybe I’m just being cynical, but I don’t think so.


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Posted: 07 Apr 19, 19:34 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Went through all of his 2013 soapbox and didn't see it..?

Although I did get a pretty good laugh out of all the things he posted about. "Badger flash mob" lol.

It's a pretty well known fact that Brian doesn't read books on Freddie's perosnal life and didn't read Jim's but I do hope he picks up Thor and Lee's book. If nothing else I'm sure if Brian really cared about Freddie, he would be happy to see photos of Fred enjoying hismelf.

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Posted: 07 Apr 19, 19:35 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I can't find it again now . I'll do some digging

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Posted: 07 Apr 19, 19:42 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

"Queen is a huge business, and as with any company, the main goal of the people who manage it is for it to prosper and make as much money as possible. It would seem Beach's job is to protectand further the Queen brand, even at the expense of the truth or sensibilities of those who were close to Freddie. Maybe I’m just being cynical, but I don’t think so."

You are correct. Don't forget Mr.Beach made me sign a gag order during my contract for working in the garden lodge. But he also told me to continue lying after my contract expired. He told me what to say to the press if I was ever asked and he was not pleased when I told him I did not see the point of lying at that time. During my contract is one thing but after seemed ridiculous. He wanted little to no mention of anyone who was removed from the house. I heard him tell someone outside of the gate once that Ms.Austin had nursed Mr.Mercury at the end of his life and made no mention of any of the men who actually did that job. I fear it was because they were gay. Joe told me Mary did not nurse him at the end. All of the men of the garden lodge said the same. But that's what Mr.Beach wanted the press to see.

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Posted: 07 Apr 19, 19:55 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Hello , Everybody you know how I feel I dont think queen productions wants this book published for sure it will totally discredit everything in the film .I think Brian is uncomfortable with Freddie being gay he preferred Freddie to be with Mary Austin Roger accepted him I think.This book will destroy any negative thing that film has brought forth .Mary Austin is sick mentally and she lives in a past that never could have existed.Brian considered her a dear friend well this movie didnt help her if she has viewed it.It has fed her illness.That among other things is why I dont like Brian May.He portrayed Freddie as a drug addict who strayed from his girlfriend and blamed others for leading him into a life that ended his life.Thats complete bullshit he was a big boy he did as he pleased.Brian portrayed himself and the others as Angel's with no issues .That's complete bullshit.I have no more to say because there is nothing he could do to make it right.

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Posted: 07 Apr 19, 20:06 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

... That would explain Jacky Gunn's opposition and flaming of Villers ...


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Posted: 07 Apr 19, 20:14 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Thank goodness Freddie doesnt know how things turned out.I dont hate anyone including Brian but I'm sure disappointed in his behavior and his success and fame mean nothing without loyalty ,compassion,and empathy.By the way you know he said Freddie spent alot of time with girls while on tour in the 70s.Well noone but him confirms this.But Brian he was with the love of his life at that time you mean he was cheating with other women I'm not buying it.

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Posted: 07 Apr 19, 20:17 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Saint, shoot me straight meaning explain yourself what about villers.

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Posted: 07 Apr 19, 20:21 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

You know, I'm going to have to speak up. If I was hearing this conversation in my real life, I would have spoken up long ago. I'm very uncomfortable with the discussion of various peoples' mental health conditions. I don't thank is a subject that should be thrown about so casually. In fact, I find it rather cruel. So many people suffer from mental health issues, but feel they have to hide them out of shame. Casually saying that someone has a mental health issue is very unkind in my opinion. Is there any way we can leave mental health out of discussions?

And if you are wondering, no, I'm not dealing with any issues myself. There might have been times in my life when that could have been questioned----like by my ex husband, but I just feel this is too sensitive an issue for people to be saying anything about people they don't even know.

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Posted: 07 Apr 19, 20:22 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

On brian.may.com it's under the queen news tab on 25/11/13

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Posted: 07 Apr 19, 20:28 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Please there is no need to jump on me . As I said I came across an interview with Tim who said that Brian had promoted it on his page . I looked and found it . If it's not Brian's actual words so be it .