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Posted: 25 Apr 19, 20:26 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Hey Logan Mews,
Although Freddie was proud of his contributions to "Flash Gordon", I don't believe he ever mentioned being attracted to Sam Jones. If you think Sam Jones is attractive and think that I (used) to look like him, thank you very much for the compliment!...LOL

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Posted: 25 Apr 19, 20:32 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Russialand,
Oh my God! John Murphy passed away LONG BEFORE Freddie had succumbed to this dreadful disease. Give me a break!

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Posted: 25 Apr 19, 21:21 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I went to see Flash Gordon at the cinema but I can't for the life of me remember the story. Have you seen 'ted' as he makes an appearance in it , it's quite funny.

Mark Wahlberg is one of my fav actors .



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Posted: 25 Apr 19, 21:21 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I thought John passed away earlier than Freddie Thanks for info.They really need to let that poor guy rest in peace along with the many others that have been accused of passing that virus to Freddie.I dont think he worried or wasted time trying to figure out who gave it to him.I think that subject needs to be buried.I know if I would've contracted it back then it was basically a death sentence so I would create me a bucket list and do everything I wanted while I still could.

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Posted: 25 Apr 19, 21:22 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I thought John passed away earlier than Freddie Thanks for info.They really need to let that poor guy rest in peace along with the many others that have been accused of passing that virus to Freddie.I dont think he worried or wasted time trying to figure out who gave it to him.I think that subject needs to be buried.I know if I would've contracted it back then it was basically a death sentence so I would create me a bucket list and do everything I wanted while I still could.

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Posted: 25 Apr 19, 22:18 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Doughnut , he has 3 heads.

One at rest , with mouth shut (bit of a mean and moody look), one singing mouth in a soft "O" and one where he's really singing hard, eyes closed.

He's "wearing" his eyes shut head now as it's sleepy bye time. Trouble is with his mouth wide open he looks like he's having a nightmare, poor pet!

It's a bit macabre actually popping his poor head off!

He has 4 sets of hands for mic holding, gesturing, fist punching the air etc.

2 mics. Regular and half mic.

I love him to bits.

He's curled up in a sock (brand new one! at the moment, I ordered him a doll house bed with bedside table, and breakfast tray 1:12 scale today! Daft, I know, but I think he's lovely! Love all my Freddie dollies! :-) My innocent (if expensive) pleasure!

Have a good evening, my peeps!

FD and LF!

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Posted: 25 Apr 19, 22:44 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Freddiedarling - I am so happy you have a new addition to your Freddie family - and with all of his accessories, it sounds like loads to be excited about, You sound like an awesome "mother" to all of your Freddies -glad he found his way into your home - he will be well taken care of - much better than the person who sold him!!

Russia - thanks for the newspaper translation - I never realized just how much Paul Prenter revealed in his sell out. How devastating this must have been for Freddie. Why would Paul ever think Freddie would talk to him again?

Thor - after this was published - did Freddie ever contact you about this? The NYC daughters are mentioned several times.

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Posted: 25 Apr 19, 23:07 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Sorry Emdee,
About what?

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Posted: 25 Apr 19, 23:24 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Thor - the fact that the daughters were mentioned in the article - Did Freddie ever communicate to you or any of the daughters about his false accusations about John? To me, there were a lot of innuendos in those articles.

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Posted: 25 Apr 19, 23:33 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

What articles. When were these articles published? The fact that I don't know anything about "these articles" probably answers your question as a big resounding, "No".

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Posted: 26 Apr 19, 00:03 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Thor - sorry - I was referring to the articles that Russia referenced in her post above. The articles were from The Sun - published May 4, 1987. It had the picture of the hat party with the caption of John as his 2nd lover to die of Aids.
This was on the front page and then the article of Paul Prenter's sell out of Freddie.
Was there ever any conversation about this particular article between you and Freddie?
Maybe a conversation like - "this guy doesn't know what he's talking about", but in much more colorful language!
It just angers me that the press couldn't wait to get this dirt. You may have not even realized this came out in the press at the time.

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Posted: 26 Apr 19, 00:08 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Blenkolove, I can tell you that valerian can cause some crazy dreams. I'm not sure why. I seriously considered writing a book about the goofy sleep adventures I had when I used it to help with insomnia. Very vivid images and strange plot twists. "One pill makes you larger and one pill makes you small..."

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Posted: 26 Apr 19, 00:34 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Saint Jiub wrote:

CHEVYMAN wrote:

Saint,Why do gays make you uncomfortable?Thanks for being honest.


Xenophobia?

It is 12:30 AM and i need to go to work tomorrow. I will likely comment more tomorrow, although I have no idea what I will say.



Xenophobia is probably too strong of a word as I feel I am neither phobic nor hateful.

I do not believe I am totally hopeless. LOL

Years ago I initiated and hugged a man at at a Queen convention because it seemed to be appropriate, and I my felt my apprehension was stupid. He is/was a great guy that I genuinely liked, and I was appreciative of the all the hard work he had done arranging the convention. Also, he was proud of me when I finally won a Queen trivia contest after previous tries in earlier years.

On the other hand, I rarely hug my dad, brother or sons, but I give goodbye hugs to my sister or female friends (without feeling creepy).

In other words, I have no rational or irrational explanation.


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Posted: 26 Apr 19, 01:11 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Hey Emdee,
No, Freddie did not.

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Posted: 26 Apr 19, 01:18 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Emdee, people from the sun are unreliable sources they will twist anything to sell it I dont believe a word that was written.Noone knows not even them who slept with who I think Its private and between those parties involved.We have to remember everybody was young at one time and like to have a good time.AIDS didnt discriminate.It affected the poor middle class and the very rich and famous.I just think it's amazing Thor and Lee survived it and are here to tell their story.We also have to remember these names we throw out there were their brothers that should've grew old with them.

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Posted: 26 Apr 19, 01:30 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Saint, Thank You for your clarification .I dont have a problem with the subject you are speaking of because I dont believe in labeling people or placing people in a specific group of people.I have no gender preference.It took me a long time through my teenage years to come to terms with it but when I did it gave me peace.I also have a very understanding spouse.He accepts me as I am.

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Posted: 26 Apr 19, 01:37 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Thanks, Thor for answering -I don't really like becoming involved with the topic of Aids- it is irrelevant to me how Freddie or any of the people that succumbed to this horrible disease contracted it. It's a very sensitive topic and I know you must have grieved over way too many close friends.

Chevy - I don't know anything about The Sun - but I am sure they were willing to print anything that made them a quick buck.



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Posted: 26 Apr 19, 01:47 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Yes Emdee they were quick to make a buck and still are.They didnt even let Freddie's parents grieve their son I read.They flashed lights in their faces when they came to view his body after his passing at home.In my book that's very disresptful.All these young men were somebody's son, brother,and uncle.Those people are bottom feeders in my book.If you got a story to tell they will pay you truth or not.

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Posted: 26 Apr 19, 01:55 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

@Thundergod First let me say I saw a comment on here that says Mary was emotionally manipulative of Freddie and a straight up bitch. I have no sympathy at all for her. She strikes me as a sociopath, she may have been "quiet" but she was freaking ruthless. Anyone who would destroy the shrine to Freddie 25 years after he died is sick in the head. The fans have no place to show remembrance and I thought the messages were sweet and awesome. I was even thinking about leaving one for myself next time I'm in London but I guess that's out. I just can't understand the gall of that. How could you disrespect him that way, I guess it's nothing new since you waited till he was gone to finally betray him in the first place. Posting bodyguards to keep Phoebe, Jim, and Joe wouldn't steal from a house they had lived in for almost seven years is complete bullshit. I never once bought her crap. She met Freddie when he was nobody and she seems controlling as hell. I could be wrong but she gives me the creeps and even more since she did that.

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Posted: 26 Apr 19, 02:07 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I also saw where Mary said "I won in the end. He was with me at the end." That is freaking scary behavior and a crazy thing to say. Am I completely wrong about this? There have been a lot of clues in all the "officially validated" (can't think of the write words) books and information on Freddie's life. I got the chills when I read Jim's book and she told him that Freddie should take off his ring. What on Earth why would you say that? Bless Jim at least from what the book says he even proposed the idea to Freddie and he said no!

I have one other thing that I'm super confused about. I was reading Ask Phoebe and there is a post that really confuses me. He says that Freddie didn't have any extra teeth in his mouth. Is that a very well spread myth? I didn't believe the Diana thing and the dwarf thing was stupid but I did think that was the case because so many who knew him said so. I just figured maybe he never mentioned it. I can't remember the last time I talked to my best friend about her teeth. I just wonder if Freddie never really mentioned it. Pheobe says he has 32 like the rest of us. Is that true? I mean who talks about their teeth though although Freddie's teeth were his trademark later, but I really want to know if that is a myth or not or if maybe Phoebe just didn't know. Comes out of post where Peter talks about having to go to the dentist and someone asked him about Freddie and the dentist.