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Posted: 29 Apr 19, 03:01 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Jo.T....same with me. The last time I watched American Idol was the year Adam Lambert was on. He was my favorite throughout the entire season...he left them all in the dust as far as I was concerned.

Thanks for the photo from the Pink concert...I love it when other performers pay tribute to Freddie.

In terms of paying homage to Freddie, one of the most amazing acknowledgments was when Norwegian Airlines put his picture on the tail fin of a couple of their planes. I flew to Ireland last year on Norwegian Airlines and was really hoping to be on the Freddie plane (although I knew the chance of that happening was rather slim) Alas, it was not to be...but a girl can dream!

Did not catch American Idol tonight, but will watch it "On Demand" in a couple of days.

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Posted: 29 Apr 19, 03:02 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

SM, ThunderGod and Lee Nolan et al..

I've been watching this thread for quite a while. I have bantered with myself about posting what I'm about to, and have finally decided to go through with it.

Shaun, I'm wondering if you remember my friend Larry Kelly, because he remembered you.

Larry was working for a refurbishing company that specialized in water and fire damage and that company was hired by Jim Beach around the same time SM's security company was.

He told me these details back in 1993, things that went on at Garden Lodge soon after Freddie had died. (and yes, he too had signed a NDA. Which is COMMON PRACTICE. Whining about that is ridiculous as any celebrity does this for their own protection.) This was before Huttons book was published. So, this was not in response to Hutton at the time.

Larry, was also friendly with Joe Fanelli (both gay men from Massachsetts living in London).

Larry's account is a little diffrent and not particularly flattering for some.

He had told me back in 1993 (before Hutton's book came out), that his company had been hired because, "household members" had a combination birthday/goodbye-Freddie/fuck-you Mary party. They had been disappointed with the "boring Christmas" celebration in the wake of Freddie's death.

He said that the house was trashed and damaged, major water damage and items had been stolen. To top it off, the security system had not been simply left off, the securty system had physically disabled and broken.

Larry also said that the Shaun, (the security-house sitter who was hired to protect Mary's interests and HER property), the "chauffeur" (who I presume was Terry, but could be someone else) and Hutton had conspired to "remove" things from Garden Lodge and that Joe Fanelli knew of it and had told Larry. Fanelli had also told Larry that neither he nor Phoebe believed Hutton was ever really Freddie's boyfriend. (as we now know, despite Hutton's claims that Mary Austin would let him remove so much as a framed picture, he and Shaun have managed to "find" items to be sold at auction, including highly personal notes that no spouse would EVER put up for auction under ANY circumstances)

He said, from his point of view, these men had been fighting *between themselves* to be Freddie's Favorite, and they were seethingly angry that Mary got the bulk of the estate and felt they deserved more. Especially Joe and Hutton because they felt that Freddie had infected them and they thought they would get more than Phoebe. Larry said that Joe and Hutton used to make fun of Phoebe and thought he was a dolt and a kiss-ass.
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THAT is why Mary had everyone move to the Mews. She, rightfully, no longer trusted them to take care of Freddie's property. He said that Beach said that if they could've kicked the three of them off the premises all together, they would have, but that because there were laws that required tenants be given 90 day notice to leave the premises, they didn't. They also didn't want any further scandal going on.

Now, that's all I'm gonna say about this. I'm well aware than none of you have cause to believe me, a virtual stranger on the internet.

You will take it or leave it as you wish. I suspect most of you will leave it as you're so far up Hutton's arse, that no facts or details can penetrate your logic.

But I what I was told, by someone who had absolute ZERO conflict of interest. And at least the guilty know that someone else knows the real story.





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Posted: 29 Apr 19, 03:17 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Wow! It appeared to have worked. P!nk (I forget to spell her stylized name.) can't be seen in the 1st photo of the LED screen of Freddie's name, so I included a recent photo of her. I took a screenshot of a video my friend filmed from the main floor of the "Beautiful Trauma World Tour" on 4-27-19. It's too bad you can't upload videos easily to QZ like FB.

BTW, here's a YouTube video of P!nk in concert in Sydney performing "Bo Rhap" 10 years ago (It's NOT my personal video.):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eLfW_XMwBGk&list=RDMMeLfW_XMwBGk&start_radio=1

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This has been downloaded 27 time(s).


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Posted: 29 Apr 19, 03:40 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Lol it's obvious people on here making fake accounts to stand up for themselves. Man this thread is getting pathetic. Childish shit.

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Posted: 29 Apr 19, 03:49 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Freddiedearie your post is bullshit and wildly insulting. You know absolutely nothing about what went on there and who the fuck was "whining" about signing anything for my contract? Sorry but I'm lost for words. You're claiming I and Jim were thieves? Really? What a bitch.

That's all for me folks. Mr Mercury's fans are just not the warm bunch I was hoping they are. I won't be posting here anymore. It's one thing to post a comment. It's another entirely to create total fiction and insinuate I bitched about signing what I was asked to sign and call me a fucking thief. You're disgusting. You want that badly to make lies to excuse Ms Austin's behaviour that you'll throw others under the bus for it? You need real help.

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Posted: 29 Apr 19, 03:55 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Odd that everything your "friend larry" that literally nobody has heard about is saying the actual opposite of what Peter Freestone himself said. Joe told on Jim and Shaun for stealing? Looks like you haven't bothered to read Freestone's second book. It's also odd that you're claiming Joe and Peter both never saw Jim as Freddie's lover when in both Peter's book and every convention chat he's ever done Peter talks about how everyone knew who Jim was to Freddie and he remembers him warmly. Peter's second book also talks about (in deatil) exactly what Shaun said about Mary letting them take some things and then changing her mind. Hints Jim getting some items out but not everything he planned to.

Hmmm.....it's almost as if someone made this Larry stuff up entirely.

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Posted: 29 Apr 19, 03:58 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

PS that is not why mary5moved them to the Mews. You didn't bother to read Freestones seconds book before you pulled this crap put of your ass did ya. If you had bothered to read first you'd (Larry lol) know that JOE forgot to set the alarm one day and Mary came back to find the house unprotected. According to Freestone that is what caused it.


But we should totally all just trust Larry WhatsHisName we never heard about before.

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Posted: 29 Apr 19, 04:06 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

None of what freddiedearie just said has any truth to it. Just asked Jacky if she knew of a Larry Kelly working at GL after Freddie passed and her response reads as follows: "I'll have to double check later I've got the names down in my files but out of the guys that were working security none were named Larry that I remember."
A Google search pulls up nothing for Larry. Nobody has mentioned him in their books and everything 'he's is claiming is in direct contradiction to what Peter Freestone himself has said.
Based on her words it's pretty clear she's one of these extremist Jim haters that makes stuff up to make him look bad. The women who claim he was an abuser and Mary was saintly.

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Posted: 29 Apr 19, 04:09 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Jacky won't find a Larry Kelley in her files. That's why I called her our for making up fiction.

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Posted: 29 Apr 19, 04:18 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Shaun, I agree. I am going to take a needed break from this too.

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Posted: 29 Apr 19, 04:27 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Imagine being so homophobic that you make up whole lies to make the love of Freddie's life [a man] look bad. Oh and all his friend must be evil too huh. Too bad you didn't do the most basic of research before making up those fibs. Phoebe beat you to the punch and already told the truth in his books. To believe "Larry" is to claim Peter Freestone is a total liar.

You managed to piss everyone off, make yourself look stupid and turn two important people off of this thread in one fell swoop. Nice.

Ironic that you toss the phrase "so far up Hutton's ass" when you're so stuck up Mary's golden asshole that you did all this. And failed. Have a seat.

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Posted: 29 Apr 19, 04:54 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

FreddieDearie wrote:

SM, ThunderGod and Lee Nolan et al..

I've been watching this thread for quite a while. I have bantered with myself about posting what I'm about to, and have finally decided to go through with it.

Shaun, I'm wondering if you remember my friend Larry Kelly, because he remembered you.

Larry was working for a refurbishing company that specialized in water and fire damage and that company was hired by Jim Beach around the same time SM's security company was.

He told me these details back in 1993, things that went on at Garden Lodge soon after Freddie had died. (and yes, he too had signed a NDA. Which is COMMON PRACTICE. Whining about that is ridiculous as any celebrity does this for their own protection.) This was before Huttons book was published. So, this was not in response to Hutton at the time.

Larry, was also friendly with Joe Fanelli (both gay men from Massachsetts living in London).

Larry's account is a little diffrent and not particularly flattering for some.

He had told me back in 1993 (before Hutton's book came out), that his company had been hired because, "household members" had a combination birthday/goodbye-Freddie/fuck-you Mary party. They had been disappointed with the "boring Christmas" celebration in the wake of Freddie's death.

He said that the house was trashed and damaged, major water damage and items had been stolen. To top it off, the security system had not been simply left off, the securty system had physically disabled and broken.

Larry also said that the Shaun, (the security-house sitter who was hired to protect Mary's interests and HER property), the "chauffeur" (who I presume was Terry, but could be someone else) and Hutton had conspired to "remove" things from Garden Lodge and that Joe Fanelli knew of it and had told Larry. Fanelli had also told Larry that neither he nor Phoebe believed Hutton was ever really Freddie's boyfriend. (as we now know, despite Hutton's claims that Mary Austin would let him remove so much as a framed picture, he and Shaun have managed to "find" items to be sold at auction, including highly personal notes that no spouse would EVER put up for auction under ANY circumstances)

He said, from his point of view, these men had been fighting *between themselves* to be Freddie's Favorite, and they were seethingly angry that Mary got the bulk of the estate and felt they deserved more. Especially Joe and Hutton because they felt that Freddie had infected them and they thought they would get more than Phoebe. Larry said that Joe and Hutton used to make fun of Phoebe and thought he was a dolt and a kiss-ass.
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THAT is why Mary had everyone move to the Mews. She, rightfully, no longer trusted them to take care of Freddie's property. He said that Beach said that if they could've kicked the three of them off the premises all together, they would have, but that because there were laws that required tenants be given 90 day notice to leave the premises, they didn't. They also didn't want any further scandal going on.

Now, that's all I'm gonna say about this. I'm well aware than none of you have cause to believe me, a virtual stranger on the internet.

You will take it or leave it as you wish. I suspect most of you will leave it as you're so far up Hutton's arse, that no facts or details can penetrate your logic.

But I what I was told, by someone who had absolute ZERO conflict of interest. And at least the guilty know that someone else knows the real story.





In case she deletes it ... it is documented here still for all to see .


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Posted: 29 Apr 19, 06:29 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote


NOT MY MESSAGE WAS SENT TO MY PM
You just proved my point:

Those "friends" are still making money of their kiss and tell episodes especially Phoebe. I wonder if Freddie would have loved it if a guy called Thor is giving interviews in atrocious docus talking about how often they had sex. And Jim's book was disgusting as well. Just plain proof that Freddie had some false friends. No go back asskissing these guys


I received the above message (I don’t know how to do a quote in my PM from a troll and a homophobe.
These trolls need to leave and let us have our thread in piece. I am sick of people trying to ruin things the same way they did when Freddie was alive making up lies because they refuse to accept the truth.

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Posted: 29 Apr 19, 06:45 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I hope SM and THUNDERGOD don’t let these trolls run them off. I have really enjoyed the experience and think it’s amazing. So many like to disparage what they don’t like. Larry is fiction considering Joe hated Mary and met with Jim before he died and said he’d tell Freddie everything that was happening at Garden Lodge. None of that stuff makes sense. Also what the hell are the odds that two gay guys from Massachusetts found themselves both involved in the world of Freddie Mercury. Larry is completely fiction and quit trying to ruin our thread. Move on please. You succeeded in running off the men we admire. Are you happy now? Leave.

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I hope SM and THUNDERGOD don’t let these trolls run them off. I have really enjoyed the experience and think it’s amazing. So many like to disparage what they don’t like. Larry is fiction considering Joe hated Mary and met with Jim before he died and said he’d tell Freddie everything that was happening at Garden Lodge. None of that stuff makes sense. Also what the hell are the odds that two gay guys from Massachusetts found themselves both involved in the world of Freddie Mercury. Larry is completely fiction and quit trying to ruin our thread. Move on please. You succeeded in running off the men we admire. Are you happy now? Leave.

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I hope SM and THUNDERGOD don’t let these trolls run them off. I have really enjoyed the experience and think it’s amazing. So many like to disparage what they don’t like. Larry is fiction considering Joe hated Mary and met with Jim before he died and said he’d tell Freddie everything that was happening at Garden Lodge. None of that stuff makes sense. Also what the hell are the odds that two gay guys from Massachusetts found themselves both involved in the world of Freddie Mercury. Larry is completely fiction and quit trying to ruin our thread. Move on please. You succeeded in running off the men we admire. Are you happy now? Leave.

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I hope SM and THUNDERGOD don’t let these trolls run them off. I have really enjoyed the experience and think it’s amazing. So many like to disparage what they don’t like. Larry is fiction considering Joe hated Mary and met with Jim before he died and said he’d tell Freddie everything that was happening at Garden Lodge. None of that stuff makes sense. Also what the hell are the odds that two gay guys from Massachusetts found themselves both involved in the world of Freddie Mercury. Larry is completely fiction and quit trying to ruin our thread. Move on please. You succeeded in running off the men we admire. Are you happy now? Leave.

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Posted: 29 Apr 19, 06:46 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I am sorry. I feel rotten about the timing of my last post, blathering frivolously about some recent concert. Apparently, it immediately followed a very controversial post that I had not yet read @ the time.

Somebody not too long ago had shared a link on the thread to humorist Dave Barry, formerly of "The Miami Herald." He wrote "Gossip is the most destructive force in the universe." He may be a humorist, but he certainly wasn't joking.

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Posted: 29 Apr 19, 06:48 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

My bad I didn’t mean to post that like four times.

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Posted: 29 Apr 19, 07:04 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

SM most of Freddie’s fans are good people. It just so happens that one bad apple will ruin everything. They do this everywhere on every website they believe the Queen PR Spin machine that Jim Beach and Mary are using. It’s really heart breaking that these people seem to be Freddie’s fans but instead like to spout lies they have no proof of. I want to apologize to you and THUNDERGOD and LEE. These fans are the exception but they are good at finding the right places to snake in and ruin everything. These aren’t fans these are homophobic pathetic people who believe things there is absolutely no evidence of. Just like that guy in my PM who was homophobic and I have way more evidence to disprove everything she or he says I’m sure she cannot produce one shred to prove her erroneous lies. There are always haters that like to ruin everyone’s fun. I’m trying to be civilized and mature about all of this and not stoop to their level.