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Posted: 12 Jan 19, 21:45 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Nevermind, I found it. Thanks again.

https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=you+tube+%22who+wants+to+live+forever%22+john+blunt&view=detail&mid=C8CA725852BC0E11BBAEC8CA725852BC0E11BBAE&FORM=VIRE


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Posted: 12 Jan 19, 21:47 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Thor,

Re: Ruth Bader Ginsburg....very good genes....and law clerks!

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Posted: 12 Jan 19, 22:24 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Mr.Michael wrote:

Thor, have you already seen the TV-biopic "The Freddie Mercury story-Who wants to live forever" with the brilliant John Blunt as Freddie? It's on YouTube.

Blunt's dramatic facial expressions are the highlights in this documentary. Especially when John Murphy is visiting him or when he hears that Rock Hudson is dying.


Brillant? The acting was cringeworthy,

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Posted: 12 Jan 19, 22:28 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Oh Dear,
I am sorry Mr. Micheal but this film is featuring Lesley Ann Jones, Peter Straker, Babara Valentine. In my opinion it, like
Bohemian Rhapsody, distorts the truth by some of the "experts." Ths film should have been made with Peter Freestone
providing the real facts.the truth
This portrayal once again slams the gay population, and even suggests that he had actual sexual activity with Barbara,
which has been debunked time and time again.Peter Straker actually wanted to share the spotlight with Freddie, a star
in his own mind.

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Posted: 12 Jan 19, 22:33 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

please change some of the "experts" to some of these "experts"

change Peter Freestone providing the real facts, in other words, the truth.

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Posted: 12 Jan 19, 22:55 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Runner: It's not brilliant, it's bloody brilliant. Just check out the scene where John Murphy is telling him: "I got months, weeks even" and Freddie looks at him. It's around 54.45-54.50. And soon after he's at the doctor's office getting the terrible news: "How long have I got, doctor". Again, the way he looks at the doctor is very convincing. The same with the way he speaks. You have to remember this is some Aussie bloke, who just happens to sing in a tribute band, he's no actor.

Thor, in these documentaries they always have the same faces telling things the way they want to tell them. Even Freestone keeps telling the same stories over and over again. I really watched it for the story itself. It's really not all that bad, you just have to ignore the fact that they have Freddie wearing his Live Aid jeans for months and months.

In the movie Bohemian Rhapsody, I also thought the scene at the doctor's office was very well done. The deedoo-part with the patient in the waiting room was just plain stupid, but otherwise it was very good.

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Posted: 12 Jan 19, 23:28 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Please, please Mr. Micheal make this change in your mind and in your analysis. John Murphy was one of my close group of friends who became one of the so-called,
N.Y. Daughters. He never had sex with Freddie. I did (two nights in August 1980).
He was just a close friend of Freddie's in New York as were Lee, Joe Scardilli, and after August 1980, me. I find this offensive because John Murphy was a dear friend
of mine and I KNOW the truth in this matter. Could there have been another John Murphy in Freddie's life? I doubt it. John Murphy was named "Dehlia" because a British
actress or singer named, "Dehlia Murphy" at the same time that Freddie named Lee, "Kathleen" (for Kathleen Nolan), and me, P.P. because of a British singer named
P.P. Arnold. I am sure I would have known if Freddie knew another John Murphy somewhere.

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Posted: 12 Jan 19, 23:45 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I didn't know about him being called Deliah by Freddie. That's a new fact for me, thanks Thor. From what I could tell, the John Blunt thing (which was so unsupported by the band that they tried to get it stopped legally, according to Brian) was just a TV version of the Somebody To Love book. Which also pushes Lesley's fake claims about Barbara and talks about John Murphy possibly being responsible for exposing Freddie to the virus. I didn't read the book or the watch the full docudrama but seeing as the band refused to give licensing to allow them to use real clips of Freddie, and Peter told a friend of mine that he avoided it like the plague once he saw the script- I didn't feel right watching the whole thing. There's enough misinformation about him out there and although I understand some people just watched it just to see it and know better than to believe it, the inaccuracies stretched far beyond just a clothing mistake. When a doco-anything starts to get facts about sexual orientation, partners and life story wrong? It's usually time to change the channel. Friend and roadie Chris Taylor went on a few rants about it and was pretty good at clearing up the inaccuracies on his social media. The thing got so much hate, Blunt told fans at the July convention that he signed the contract to do the thing before reading the script. Some were even shocked Jacky still booked him for the gig and she said Brian didn't know about it.

I doubt Brian pays much attention to what goes on at Queen conventions these days.

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Posted: 13 Jan 19, 01:51 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Thanks for the message, Thor. Sorry if you get my response twice, but the site was lagging yet again.

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Posted: 13 Jan 19, 02:32 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I am so glad when I started delving deeper into Freddie Mercury’s life, I somehow came across Mercury and Me first and through that learned more about Phoebe and Joe and then the NY daughters. I wonder if I had started with any Lesley Ann Jones books what I would have thought about them. Thanks Villiers for not letting me make that mistake! This is why this book is so important, people need to know the truth from reliable sources. I can’t believe that someone would put a story out about something significant that John Murphy went through when he’s not around to tell his side of the story. Thor, you’re a good man for giving him a voice now! I mean, shoot, as bed a Paul Prenter was at least what he sold was mostly the truth, just in bad taste.

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Posted: 13 Jan 19, 04:09 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Hey, I hope I didn't embarrass anyone on the page before when I asked about the article that had been posted. It was just that I was perplexed as I was reading it because I was having one of those deja vu moments. I often see articles; videos or pictures that I want to refer to later, but have no idea where I saw them. I can spend way too much time trying to locate things I want to share with no idea where to begin to look. In my personal life I read constantly, probably a book a week. It's so annoying to me when I start a new book and realize about a chapter in that I've already read the book. So I was having one of those brow wrinkling moments, and posted without thinking. Another problem I have far too often. No offense meant to anyone!

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Posted: 13 Jan 19, 06:24 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Thor, Lee, and Anniebee - I am so happy you liked the clips of Freddie and Phoebe!! I just came upon it the other day watching Queen videos

Lee I can't wait to hear what your surprise is....

Lee do you prefer to be called Lee or Kathleen?

I have a question for you guys if you have time. Any idea why Freddie liked to perform barefoot so much?

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Posted: 13 Jan 19, 09:25 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Hi Folks

First off thank you for all who commented on my Freddie doll.

Secondly, I agree about the docu-drama "Who Wants To Live Forever" it did perpetuate many inaccurate myths about Freddie. They seemed to draw mostly from the Lesley AnJines book and Mark Langthorne , Matt Richards book.

The Matt Richards book even suggests, erroneously that John Murphy was likely the person who passed the HIV virus on to Freddie (and that John likely contracted it from the Gatan Dugas- so called "Patient Zero" or more accurately Patient "o" - the letter "o" as he'd been labelled). I knew from dear Phoebe that John had not been Freddie's lover., So to suggest that John passed the virus into Freddie was borderline libelous!

And anyway, who can blame anybody at that time for passing it on to somebody else? There was so little correct information about this disease which was only just emerging into public consciousness, and indeed becoming the epidemic that it did, that very few people who were unknowingly carrying the virus could not be blamed for being a vector for the virus.

I also have issues with Jim Hutton's book. I do believe that Jim himself meant well, and didn't intend to mis-lead or focus of the more intimate side of his relationship with Freddie or details of his illness and death, but I feel that in his naivete he was lead astray by Tim Wapshott his co-author (ghost-writwr?) who is a journalist and knew that more explicit, salacious details would sell more copies.

Other than Peter's lovely books, I have taken all the biographies I have read with a hefty pinch of salt!

The Somebody To Love book is actually a good read for learning about the evolution of HIV-AIDS and was quite an education in that respect, but not so good to learn accurate information about Freddie. The authors seem to have lifted most personal information straight from Lesley Ann Jones's book, and taken it that this was all gospel truth.

That's my take on things , anyway for what it's worth.

Have a great Sunday folks.

Kind Regards

FreddieDarling

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Posted: 13 Jan 19, 09:31 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

More blinking typos! Should have read "from Gaetan Dugas-" NOT the Gatan Dugas- which actually upon first typing became Tartan Dutas whatever that is! I wish Google would stop trying to do my thinking for me! Sorry folks!

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Posted: 13 Jan 19, 15:54 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Katydyd5 wrote:

Hey, I hope I didn't embarrass anyone on the page before when I asked about the article that had been posted. It was just that I was perplexed as I was reading it because I was having one of those deja vu moments. I often see articles; videos or pictures that I want to refer to later, but have no idea where I saw them. I can spend way too much time trying to locate things I want to share with no idea where to begin to look. In my personal life I read constantly, probably a book a week. It's so annoying to me when I start a new book and realize about a chapter in that I've already read the book. So I was having one of those brow wrinkling moments, and posted without thinking. Another problem I have far too often. No offense meant to anyone!


No probs ... I am glad to know where I saw that article previously



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Posted: 13 Jan 19, 21:41 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

What a shirt !

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Posted: 13 Jan 19, 22:02 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Freddie Purrrcury...how fitting for our feline-loving friend! Thanks, stevendabudgie.

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Posted: 14 Jan 19, 00:23 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

DON'T STOP MEOW!!!! ...FRGGIN HYSTERICAL!!!

THANK YOU STEVENDABUDGIE....YOUR POSTS ALWAYS CRACK ME UP!!!!

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Posted: 14 Jan 19, 00:31 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

AND...Blencolove, "Don't Stop Meow" cracks me up too!
Good Job!


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Posted: 14 Jan 19, 00:32 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I mean Blenkolove...sorry, love!