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Posted: 14 Jan 19, 23:22 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Hi Rainbow,
Originally, Lee, Joe, John and I were invited to the concerts in 1981 and 1982. Sometimes, John and Joe couldn't come
because of their American Airlines flight attendant schedule. Lee and I were always able to manipulate our work schedules
to attend. Mine was easy because I was working 12-hour shifts 3-4 days a week and if I needed, could schedule for
3-nights working, 7 days off, and then 4 nights working again, all during a two week period. Lee also always managed to
change his work schedule. He was loved at every job he's ever had and that gave him a lot of Lee-Way...lol

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Posted: 15 Jan 19, 00:14 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Don't feed the ones who live under bridges, everyone!!


Anyway, Thor, were you bartending and nursing at the same time?

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Posted: 15 Jan 19, 00:14 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Hello Thor,

I have two slightly off-topic-questions, which you might want to answer anyway:

I am not one for conspiracy theories, but I can also not ignore the fact that we still don't really got to know, where HIV really did spring from. First it was the Green Monkeys (do you remember Dr. Koop - Reagen administration?), then it was supposed to have come from Haiti, and finally we were being told that it sprang from apes to humans in Africa, from where it went around the world. I have a book here called „A Higher Form Of Killing“, which features original scripts from debates in the US-Congress, in which someone from the US military asks for federal funds to develop a virus which will affect only certain ethnical groups of people. Having read the book, I wonder even more why HIV/AIDS is still mostly affecting gay men in the western world. Did you ever wonder if we really had been told all the facts about the sudden deadly appearance of the virus in mainly the gay community in the late 70's/early 80's?

Then I would like to know how you reacted when more and more men got sick without knowing what GRID, as HIV/AIDS was known at that time, actually was and how it
was transmitted. Was there really a sense of community before HIV/AIDS among gay men or did it develop in the wake of the disease? Having grown up in rural Germany and having identified as a gay youth at the time the horrible news were spreading over from the US, it really shocked many of us over here to the point that especially us young gay guys didn't have sex at all for a good decade. Thankfully many of us hadn't been infected, but I sometimes wonder if the right wing forces that spread up all over the world don't already have another "secret weapon“ in the pipeline to get rid of us "filthy shameless abnormals". What do you think? Sorry to all not interested in my questions for being off topic...

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Posted: 15 Jan 19, 02:01 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

FunLovinCriminal wrote:

Hello Thor,

I have two slightly off-topic-questions, which you might want to answer anyway:

I am not one for conspiracy theories, but I can also not ignore the fact that we still don't really got to know, where HIV really did spring from. First it was the Green Monkeys (do you remember Dr. Koop - Reagen administration?), then it was supposed to have come from Haiti, and finally we were being told that it sprang from apes to humans in Africa, from where it went around the world. I have a book here called „A Higher Form Of Killing“, which features original scripts from debates in the US-Congress, in which someone from the US military asks for federal funds to develop a virus which will affect only certain ethnical groups of people. Having read the book, I wonder even more why HIV/AIDS is still mostly affecting gay men in the western world. Did you ever wonder if we really had been told all the facts about the sudden deadly appearance of the virus in mainly the gay community in the late 70's/early 80's?

Then I would like to know how you reacted when more and more men got sick without knowing what GRID, as HIV/AIDS was known at that time, actually was and how it
was transmitted. Was there really a sense of community before HIV/AIDS among gay men or did it develop in the wake of the disease? Having grown up in rural Germany and having identified as a gay youth at the time the horrible news were spreading over from the US, it really shocked many of us over here to the point that especially us young gay guys didn't have sex at all for a good decade. Thankfully many of us hadn't been infected, but I sometimes wonder if the right wing forces that spread up all over the world don't already have another "secret weapon“ in the pipeline to get rid of us "filthy shameless abnormals". What do you think? Sorry to all not interested in my questions for being off topic...


I hope the following link is accurate and legitimate. It appears that HIV was originally contracted by humans through "butchering and consumption of monkey meat".

www.avert.org/professionals/history-hiv-aids/origin


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There's one for you, nineteen for me

Should five per cent appear too small

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Posted: 15 Jan 19, 02:03 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

oops ...


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Posted: 15 Jan 19, 02:16 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

NotQuiteAShilling,

Thank you for sharing that video of Phoebe and Peter. That was terrific,

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Posted: 15 Jan 19, 02:33 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Rainbow61,

Thank for the link to the new site, will definitely ad to my reading! I love reading about the concerts. The dialogue the band had during the shows, accounts form fans that were at the shows, and the old reviews. It is so interesting and educational.

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Posted: 15 Jan 19, 02:39 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Thank you Saint Jiub,
I found that article on AIDS very informative. When I first heard of AIDS I was convinced it was due to inhaling Amyl Nitrate (an important emergency medication used for heart stimulation in emergency situations) but abused by many, gay and straight, to enhance a sexual high in the bedroom and on the disco dancefloor. I immediately stopped using it from that day and now When HIV was determined to be transferred during sex, I slapped on a condom every time and continuing until this day. I was lucky, many of my friends were not.

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Posted: 15 Jan 19, 02:41 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Hi Thor,

I'm relatively new here but have read through both threads and really appreciate the time you have taken with us. I am really looking forward to the book.

The Rock Montreal Concert is one of my favorite and part of the reason is I absolutely love Freddie in those tiny white shorts he wears at the end. Was this the concert you attended? Did he ever discus with you all how he decided on any of his stage wear? I actually really loved anytime he came on stage with the shorts and bare feet.

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Posted: 15 Jan 19, 02:51 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Ha Ha Freddienotfreddy,

I will repeat a phrase of Freddie's when asked that same question. "Darling, when you have absolutely nothing left to give them (meaning the concert crowds) give then WARDROBE!

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Posted: 15 Jan 19, 03:22 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

FreddieNotFreddy thank you I'm so glad you loved the Phoebe/Freddie video too

Ironically I was also just watching some of the famous "white shorts" concert today. Great stuff! He got as close to performing naked as he could didn't he?!

St Juib thanks for sharing that link. Very informative. I like the interactive timeline. Shame on USA for taking so long to act

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Posted: 15 Jan 19, 04:25 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Sorry Thor

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Posted: 15 Jan 19, 08:33 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Hi Thor,

Just read your GoFundMe update!

Wow they make it all so complicated, don't they!

I am very happy for you continue to retain my own donations.

Are you considering self-publishing using a platform bsych as Amazon?

I do hope we do get to see they wonderful sounding book. You've really whet my appetite.

Hoping you have success in this venture

Kindest Regards to you both.



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Posted: 15 Jan 19, 09:03 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I am working very hard on it. Self publishing or on-line publishing will be considered the day after April 30th.
I AM still optomistic!

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Posted: 15 Jan 19, 13:45 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Dear Thor,

I wonder whether you and/or Freddie had ever heard of Klaus Nomi in the early 1980s?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Klaus_Nomi

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Posted: 15 Jan 19, 14:43 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Thor,

I think I asked a question a while back that got put on the backburner due to the holidays, so I'll ask again, when you guys would hang out with Freddie was it with the intention that you would be going out to party or did you have like a guys night in?

Also, if you called and talked to him while he was at home did he ever have you talk to his cats? lol

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Posted: 15 Jan 19, 21:47 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Hi Stevedabudgie,,

Did he know this person in London, New York, or on the 1982 American portion of the Queen Tour. If it was in New York, there is a possibility that I met Klaus, or maybe on the tour, but if in London, we didn't start going there to visit Freddie until the mid '80s not the early '80s and we never went to Munich when he was there.

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Posted: 15 Jan 19, 22:01 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Ha Ha Anniebee,

As far as a boys night IN goes, I will quote Freddie's own words, "Every Night's a Party at Melina's (meaning Freddie's) Mansion."

He had a way of turning all of our visits whether in New York or later, in London into a Extra-Special Moments for us. So, you probably would never see us playing Scrabble (I love that game) in a quiet, controlled atmosphere.Not Freddie's style...LOL


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Posted: 15 Jan 19, 22:09 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Oops, please change "...or London into a Extra-Special Moments" to "...or London into Extra Special Moments.
Sorry

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Posted: 16 Jan 19, 01:14 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

So Thor, you guys never played Scrabble with Freddie? His love for Scrabble is one of those pieces of information that I just adore because it makes him even more real. Rainbow once shared a great video here and I'm going to share it again for the newbies. It's fun...…..Brian and Roger talk about the Scrabble Wars.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zVgZjZy3VWk