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Posted: 05 Dec 17, 00:30 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Thing is, because her constant spamming, SweetCarolines opinions are pretty much redundant on here now.....

The band were tight, performances were tight, and as I said on the other thread, they genuinely seemed to be enjoying themselves

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Posted: 05 Dec 17, 00:45 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

That's good, scottmax, because I was wondering if fatigue was starting to set in.
I still can't help but wish things were a little different, but that's mostly due to song choices. Now, I hope DOOL will be played in London. I'd be sad if it wasn't.
I'm very happy and thankful DOOL was played at least twice, credit to Brian and Roger for that. That's for you sweetcaroline, in case you missed it since you think I can't be happy and any other insult you want to throw around about me.

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Posted: 05 Dec 17, 00:51 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Love this pic of Adam and Brian:

http://www.instagram.com/p/BcHfoWNjdor/

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Posted: 05 Dec 17, 08:16 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

If AL messed up BoRhap just in one night, or if he messed some obscure song (for example from NOTW, but they're too lazy to rehearse anything like this), it would be more understable. But mistakes and slower speed of the songs isn't the main problem. Using Frank all the time and not playing songs from NOTW is the one.

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Posted: 05 Dec 17, 08:47 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

AL messed it up three nights in a row at the beginning of this tour. It seemed very lazy and he didn't give a damn about it. He didn't even try to get it right.
And I agree, if it was a song he didn't sing before or even a lesser known song, that would be a different thing altogether, I'd understand that. For Bohemian Rhapsody...it made AL look like an amateur.
Never thought I'd see the day Frank as a gimmick, as a sitting place and the tacky banter AL does to go along with it, so much so, I don't even watch or listen to that part any longer, but I do think CGI of Frank is neat.

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Posted: 05 Dec 17, 11:18 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Of course freddie (and the rest of them) never ever missed a note, sang the wrong lines or had to start a song from the beginning beecause they had totally Fu**ed it up.
I have to say from my memory of the 30 or so gigs I saw there was NEVER a perfect gig technically or performance wise

There were many absolutely awesome shows where the band gave their all and still got something wrong.
BUT the point is we went to see the band not analyse it later on an internet forum.

Neil


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Posted: 05 Dec 17, 13:01 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

@ scallyuk....I don't think anyone can deny Queen with Freddie have never messed up during live shows. They sure have messed up at times, I admit to that, you will never see me say or even try to say otherwise. Queen's passion and talent made up for whatever mistakes they made. I don't expect perfection at live shows. It simply doesn't happen.
Sweetcaroline is the one saying AL is perfect, and can't admit AL messed up Bohemian Rhapsody. It's very clear he did, I don't know how or why she can't admit to it. I think more time was needed to rehearse these Q+AL shows. When I found out there was only a day or two of rehearsals, that my gut told me IL and SYW had no chance of returning to the set, and there would not be too many surprises or changes...and I was right.
Hopefully in the break between this tour and the next more rehearsal time will be in the cards for Q+AL.

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Posted: 05 Dec 17, 13:20 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

scallyuk wrote:

Of course freddie (and the rest of them) never ever missed a note, sang the wrong lines or had to start a song from the beginning beecause they had totally Fu**ed it up.
I have to say from my memory of the 30 or so gigs I saw there was NEVER a perfect gig technically or performance wise

There were many absolutely awesome shows where the band gave their all and still got something wrong.
BUT the point is we went to see the band not analyse it later on an internet forum.

Neil


You're right, there are even examples on film of them ( Freddie) forgetting words or hitting a wrong note or his voice cracking. The stupid thing is that people have either forgotten these instances or are willing to allow Freddie to balls stuff up but not Lambert.

The real truth, and one that some a lot will find hard to except, is trying Lambert seems to be a much more consistent vocalist than Freddie was live.

Also a lot of people are critical of Brian saying that it's dangerous and exciting and live. But when the result of it being live is that someone makes a mistake the reaction is negative.

I do think that Queen are often under rehearsed and tend to take the easy option. Yes this leg of the tour only had one day of production rehearsal. The start of the tour in June only saw them in rehearsal for 10 days including production.

I understand the leaning to a greatest hits show, but I also feel that the intention was to include much more of NOTW than they did, and it's a shame they dropped what they did. They have prayed a wider range of songs with AL than they did with PR but after five years it would be nice to see a major change.

I think the current production is amazing and they are playing well and seem to be enjoying it, maybe more than last time, I just wish they'd okay to the ok'd fan base as much as they do to the casual or newer audience members.

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Posted: 05 Dec 17, 14:19 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Every time I read about the one day of rehearsals...it actually makes my heart sink. There should have been more time to do it. I wish there was more time to rehearse, as it might have meant lesser known Queen songs to be added and kept?
These Q+AL shows are hardly dangerous set list wise. I should know better but every time Brian hypes these shows up, I can't help but hope for more. I never would have expected IL and SYW...what a good surprise that was for me. Too bad it didn't last for whatever reason/s.

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Posted: 05 Dec 17, 15:12 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I actually canNOT believe you people are complaining that Adam messed up the lyrics to ONE song in One performance. I have seen him live many times. He consistently puts on a brilliant performance, never misses a show, and never fails to deliver. But his is human. Come on. You've got to be kidding me.


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Posted: 05 Dec 17, 15:24 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

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The Newcastle gig was one of the best, if not the best, I've seen on this tour.

The entire band put loads of effort into the show. TOTV saying Lambert came across as insincere and not hungry for it makes a nonsense of what the rest of the audience saw. The connection between the three of them is evident by the eye contact and smiles. Anyone at the front or along the thrust to the B stage would have seen this.

Those like LOTV who are quick to critise Lambert's rehearsed lines seem to have forgotten how much Freddie would stick to the same pieces of chatter. Or the king of the one Liner David Lee Roth using the same line, not just show after show, but tour after tour! Or Paul Stanley's song into's to Love Gun or Cold Gin or the whole of Metallica's poor touring me set in which Hetfield's lines to the audience where as reheased as anything Lambert has said.

The truth is if your presenting a show as big as the current Queen production, with so many moving parts, both lighting, video and staging everything has to be rehearsed.

Having access to YouTube gives a different prospective to live touring shows. But the best way to see any gig is to get a ticket and lose yourself in the moment which is what most of the audience do night after night



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Posted: 05 Dec 17, 15:27 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

SweetCaroline wrote:

Adam is magnificent! Just ask Brian!


As much as I'm on your side, that's not a great argument. Of course the artists involved are going to promote their current project in any way possible. That's basic PR 101.

Overall, Lambert is great - but you're not going to find a lot of people who saw Queen with Mercury rave about how life changing a nostalgia show is.

The show is excellent, but let's be real here.



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Posted: 05 Dec 17, 15:31 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

scallyuk wrote:

Of course freddie (and the rest of them) never ever missed a note, sang the wrong lines or had to start a song from the beginning beecause they had totally Fu**ed it up.
I have to say from my memory of the 30 or so gigs I saw there was NEVER a perfect gig technically or performance wise

There were many absolutely awesome shows where the band gave their all and still got something wrong.
BUT the point is we went to see the band not analyse it later on an internet forum.

Neil


Bang on.

I can only wonder what internet forums would look like if they were around when Queen played Japan in 1979...



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Posted: 05 Dec 17, 15:36 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

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The real truth, and one that some a lot will find hard to except, is trying Lambert seems to be a much more consistent vocalist than Freddie was live.


I've said this for years.

And as right as you are - Mercury wrote songs that will be remembered a hundred years for now, and that's all that ultimately matters. This current chapter of the band's history is a welcome and unexpected one (this seemed completely impossible in, say, 2003), but all the right notes in the world won't better the catalog for what it is. This period isn't a vital organ - it's an addendum.



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Posted: 05 Dec 17, 15:46 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

They haven’t told us the reason why there was only one or two days before the tour leg on Europe. Maybe it was impossible for everyone to be there because of other commitments. After 20 plus shows in NA maybe they felt the basics were in place and just needed some fine tuning.

I guess I still need someone (Icy?) to point out to me what Adam did when he messed up BoRhap. Maybe there were some lyrics out of the right order?

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Posted: 05 Dec 17, 19:45 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Good grief, sweetcaroline. It was pointed out to you by another poster called GrowupGlamberts exactly how and where AL messed Bohemian Rhapsody up. You still didn't or couldn't admit to then or now. Do you think it will hurt AL's career, or his perfection and magnificence you think he has if you admit that he messed it up?


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Posted: 05 Dec 17, 19:55 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Icy, I guess I missed it because he covered it up so well. I’ve been listening to all of the live audios. So I guess I should google BoRhap from the first show in Prague?

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Posted: 05 Dec 17, 19:56 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

LOTV wrote:

the whole thing was so scripted and safe. Adam's speech about Freddie is so scripted it doesn't come across as genuine at all, he even cracked the same Frank head jokes.


The internet makes it so easy to make this criticism in 2017.

Queen's show was entirely scripted in 1974, including the majority of Mercury's banter. Have you listened to the concert tapes?

"Maybe next time we'll come back with an orchestra?"
"There have been rumours that we're going to split up."

You may not like the old Queen much longer if this is how you feel about a show being well paced and thought out.



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Posted: 05 Dec 17, 20:12 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

You missed it because you can't admit to yourself or others that he messed up. It was pointed out to you here on QZ where he messed it up. Maybe because non Glamberts pointed it out, you probably thought it was a lie or something. Either way, you not admitting to it, makes you look silly. And no, he didn't try to cover it up, let alone not covering it up well.
It's funny. You give Adele shit for messing up Fast Love at the Brit Awards, but you don't understand anything about that. You can't admit AL messed up Bohemian Rhapsody. That's quite unsettling that it seems you think he could never do no wrong, and is always perfect and magnificent, no matter what. That's a high pedestal you have placed AL on. He isn't so perfect after all, and there's nothing wrong with that. He messing up Bohemian Rhapsody took me by surprise, it wasn't the first time he sang it, it wasn't a new to him Q song, that is what sticks out n my mind. More rehearsal time was needed than just a day. Do you see where I'm coming from with this?

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Posted: 05 Dec 17, 22:59 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

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