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Posted: 19 Dec 17, 15:22 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I know this movie has been talked about to death already, but a new interview with Brian he says They're not sweeping any part of Freddie under the rug, and will be balanced between his creative and personal life. I hope that's true. As for the cast, I Think they look the part. Brian in particular looks like a younger version of him. Freddie? That's a concern for me....Freddie was a small man only 5'7 170 pounds, the actor Malek is small as well but looks too young and boyish...Freddie had a larger than life personality that will be hard, very hard to recreate. These type of movies only have a few successes....Every elvis movie flopped, ect, ect.....A few got it right like The Doors and Ray Charles.. Can Queen be one of the few that get it right? Aside from The Freddie concern my biggest concern is if they end the Movie with Live Aid....that's not when the Queen/Freddie story ended, and will ignore a very Important part of the their story..that last year of his life showing his courage and the band pushing foward creating one last album when he was sick was Inspiring... I think that would show people he was more than a flamboyant character. Not sure how they could ignore that part of their history.

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Posted: 19 Dec 17, 15:29 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

It's a story everyone knows the details of.

Why does the film have to follow the whole story to its tragic conclusion. If the film does end at Live Aid it wil end on a massive high, nothing wrong with that. As far as following what other bio pics do,now hen have Queen ever done what most people expect?

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Posted: 19 Dec 17, 16:07 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

That tragic conclusion is part of the story, while everyone knows Mercury died of Aids they don't know the Inspiring recording of Innuendo. How can a Queen movie be made without him singing The Show Must Go On towards the end of his life? It's such a big part of their history. A unique story that needs to be told. Did they ignore Jim Morrisons death in The Doors Movie? If they do a movie about Johnny Cash will they leave out the heart breaking End with him singing the song Hurt? Even if it's only the last 10 minutes of the movie you can't erase those last couple of years.

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Posted: 19 Dec 17, 16:17 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

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That tragic conclusion is part of the story, while everyone knows Mercury died of Aids they don't know the Inspiring recording of Innuendo. How can a Queen movie be made without him singing The Show Must Go On towards the end of his life? It's such a big part of their history. A unique story that needs to be told. Did they ignore Jim Morrisons death in The Doors Movie? If they do a movie about Johnny Cash will they leave out the heart breaking End with him singing the song Hurt? Even if it's only the last 10 minutes of the movie you can't erase those last couple of years.


Agree totally. Bollocks to brand Queen and finishing on a high, tell the whole and real story.

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Posted: 19 Dec 17, 16:29 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

The real story is the only story that matters....They could end it with Bo Rhap topping the charts after he passed away if they want to end it on a High....The real good movies show a persons High and low points in life. Not Just the good moments. That's not reality.

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Posted: 19 Dec 17, 16:34 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I think the film should include the period after Live Aid. It's also a part of the band's history and I don't see why this would be omitted.

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Posted: 19 Dec 17, 17:38 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Call me (and Queen Productions) crazy but could they, in their misguided / naive ways, be thinking about a Part 2 that starts with One Vision and then you get the whole drama of Freddie getting sick, etc.
QP have a tendency of starting and setting things up thinking about 'the long run' and then they drop the ball or simply move on to the next fad: DVD-A, Top 100 Bootlegs, Live Downloads, Greatest Video Hits, etc. And then you get an incomplete set.
I wouldn't put this beneath them.


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Posted: 19 Dec 17, 20:20 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

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I think the film should include the period after Live Aid. It's also a part of the band's history and I don't see why this would be omitted.


Because every cheesy movie has a sequel... tssss ;)

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Posted: 19 Dec 17, 21:22 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

That would be the worse if they end it with live Aid, then make part 2 for the last 5 years. Even Queen wouldn't be that ridiculous. Besides, it took a decade to finally get this one movie done. Imagine how long it would take to finish part 2? Brian will be 90 at that point.

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Posted: 19 Dec 17, 22:14 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

MAybe they´ll produce a trilogy- part 2 continues the story until Freddie´s death, part 3 shows how the band carries on from strength to strength ;)



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Posted: 19 Dec 17, 22:42 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

But I think from a dramatic, commercial point of view it is logical to end with Live Aid. The first third introduces the main characters and shows how the band is formed. In the middle section the story and the conflict gradually deals with their rise to fame and staying power accompanied by lots of career landmarks, Freddie´s lovelife, lots of arguments and growing tensions among the band members and finally their low point with "Hot Space", alienation from each other, solo projects, thought about breaking up... In the third and final act our heroes settle their differences and achieve their biggest triumph ever, Live Aid.
The story still can include Freddie´s illness- wasn´t he advised not to perform on Live Aid because of a flu? The movie can show Freddie having minor ailments, rumours about friends dying and growing concerns about his own health and doubts about being able to perform in that period. Ignoring and overcoming these problems for the band´s sake could come across not only as heroic but fitting into Brian´s intended story about team work and collaboration.
The payoff would be Live Aid- Queen´s greatest and most remembered performance.








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Posted: 20 Dec 17, 02:34 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

mike hunt wrote:

If they do a movie about Johnny Cash will they leave out the heart breaking End with him singing the song Hurt? Even if it's only the last 10 minutes of the movie you can't erase those last couple of years.


They did a movie about Cash (Walk The Line starring Joaquin Phoenix) and they did not include his final years, it actually ends at his highest point, and it´s an amazing movie! you really should check it out.

Anyways, I think it will be great if they do a first movie that ends at Live Aid, and then a second movie about the final 5 years of Queen. Or maybe even a movie about the making of Made In Heaven, with flashbacks of the finals years of Freddie.



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Posted: 20 Dec 17, 02:45 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

let's manage our expectations. Examples of great biopics: Ray and Walk The Line. To a lesser extend... The Doors.

If we get The Doors - I'll be happy.

If you want something dramatic which may not be true to facts... Freddie knew he had AIDS prior to Live Aid. The rest writes itself...Two thirds of the movie occurs during the Live Aid performance during which Freddie recollects his past (formation of the band, Mary, coming out, BoRhap, etc) present (infighting with band, finding out he had AIDS, current lovelife) and inevitable future (death) in no specific order... or at least in an order that fits the setlist and songs they play. which i believe should not be altered and would tell the tale perfectly... starts with BoRhap and ends with We Are The Champions (forget the encore). The emotions that of course run wild during these moment is what fuels his greatest performance. Finally, the show is over, we go backstage where Freddie is alone - he weeps. Fast forward to the Innuendo/last sessions years in Montreux - acceptance of his fate, devotion to his craft, partial performance of The Show Must Go On... fade to his funeral - focus point is the band and how they move forward. Recognition of Freddie, the legend, and the will to carry on.

I believe that will be the only way this movie works without it being a boring biography. Wish I could have written it :-)

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Posted: 20 Dec 17, 02:56 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

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mike hunt wrote:

If they do a movie about Johnny Cash will they leave out the heart breaking End with him singing the song Hurt? Even if it's only the last 10 minutes of the movie you can't erase those last couple of years.


They did a movie about Cash (Walk The Line starring Joaquin Phoenix) and they did not include his final years, it actually ends at his highest point, and it´s an amazing movie! you really should check it out.

Anyways, I think it will be great if they do a first movie that ends at Live Aid, and then a second movie about the final 5 years of Queen. Or maybe even a movie about the making of Made In Heaven, with flashbacks of the finals years of Freddie.



I agree with Walk The Line being incredible. However, what is one of the most publicized deaths of all time? Who is the most famous person to die of AIDS? Who is the person in history most commonly associated with the AIDS epidemic? You can't possibly write a movie about Freddie Mercury and leave out his death.

Had Freddie lived until he was 71, not been gay, not had AIDS and dies of natural causes related to diabetes...a chronic illness - i completely agree... his death would be the least interesting thing about him.

ie. Johnny Cash... or even eventually... David Bowie (Cancer). You would leave out his death if you did a Bowie biopic. It really is the least interesting thing about his life.

But Freddie had AIDS... a horrible disease that was not well understood at the time. Was untreatable at the time. Was a death sentence once you found out. This is pure fucking drama. You can't leave out AIDS, unfortunately. While it may be noble to completely exclude it - it's not dramatically responsible.

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Posted: 20 Dec 17, 11:03 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Let's face it, we know the film will be shit.

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Posted: 20 Dec 17, 15:03 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

LOTV wrote:

Let's face it, we know the film will be shit.


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That’s What Sasha Cohen Also told when working Six years on the movie.


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Posted: 20 Dec 17, 18:29 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I'm not a die hard Cash fan, so I didn't know about Walk The Line....but I'll check that out. I agree about the Doors movie...I'll be happy with that. They concrentrated more on the music and added his personal problems and death at the end of the movie. I'm not saying most of the movie should be about clubbing, Sex Drugs and Aids. I think most of it should be about the music and live Aid, but the last part of the movie, say the last 20 minutes should show his illness, and how the band carried on despite the circumstances. Making some of their best songs in the process.

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Posted: 20 Dec 17, 18:37 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

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victor fleitas wrote:

mike hunt wrote:

If they do a movie about Johnny Cash will they leave out the heart breaking End with him singing the song Hurt? Even if it's only the last 10 minutes of the movie you can't erase those last couple of years.


They did a movie about Cash (Walk The Line starring Joaquin Phoenix) and they did not include his final years, it actually ends at his highest point, and it´s an amazing movie! you really should check it out.

Anyways, I think it will be great if they do a first movie that ends at Live Aid, and then a second movie about the final 5 years of Queen. Or maybe even a movie about the making of Made In Heaven, with flashbacks of the finals years of Freddie.



I agree with Walk The Line being incredible. However, what is one of the most publicized deaths of all time? Who is the most famous person to die of AIDS? Who is the person in history most commonly associated with the AIDS epidemic? You can't possibly write a movie about Freddie Mercury and leave out his death.

Had Freddie lived until he was 71, not been gay, not had AIDS and dies of natural causes related to diabetes...a chronic illness - i completely agree... his death would be the least interesting thing about him.

ie. Johnny Cash... or even eventually... David Bowie (Cancer). You would leave out his death if you did a Bowie biopic. It really is the least interesting thing about his life.

But Freddie had AIDS... a horrible disease that was not well understood at the time. Was untreatable at the time. Was a death sentence once you found out. This is pure fucking drama. You can't leave out AIDS, unfortunately. While it may be noble to completely exclude it - it's not dramatically responsible.


Great point. I agree 100%


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Posted: 20 Dec 17, 20:39 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

He was also the first Rock Star to die from that disease....correct me if I'm wrong. While rock stars dying of drug overdoses are common...Aids is a more dramatic story. Especially given the UK press and how they treated him. I think they should show how messed up the UK press are and were back then.

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Posted: 20 Dec 17, 23:56 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

mike hunt wrote:I think they should show how messed up the UK press are and were back then.


Do you have much screenwriting experience?