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Posted: 16 Apr 18, 18:01 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

dysan wrote:

Was GSTQ done at Trident? I seem to recall BM did that and Procession in his own in a little demo studio?


It sure was.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qqzk3zKENSk

@ 0:45 it says "TAP" - Trident Audio Productions.

It was recorded on October 27, 1974, just days before the Sheer Heart Attack tour began.



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Posted: 16 Apr 18, 18:09 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Chopin1995 wrote:

If I can add anything, rehearsals began not later than the 1st August, look at the date here (from the photo sessions at Ridge Farm) - http://photofeatures.photoshelter.com/image/I00000Fb.Tnq4ejE

Also, I was doing some research lately and more than 200 photos can be found from rehearsing/recording the album (this can be more than 250 photos overall, including Brian's stereos shared in his book, or maybe over 300, who knows?):

- at least 6 photos of the band going from London to rehearsal e.g. http://www.photofeatures.com/queen/ppages/ppage28.html , http://cs419924.vk.me/v419924507/744c/aYa7Yzrqpl4.jpg
- at least 16 photos of Queen receiving Music Life gifts at Ridge Farm e.g. http://cs419924.vk.me/v419924507/7474/L9O48JKtVoE.jpg
- at least 173 photos of the band rehearing/relaxing at Ridge Farm (including playing snooker, posing at the entrance gate?, drinking tea probably, sitting on the grass, sitting at the swimming pool, playing tennis, rehearsal itself and more). No need of examples I think.
- at least 14 photos of the session at Sarm studio with Eddie Howell, probably in August as well e.g. http://i.pinimg.com/originals/6c/9b/a7/6c9ba74ac5a6e22a60c7ad3f34195cb3.jpg
- at least 8 photos of the proper recording session at Scorpio (late august/early septemer) e.g. http://i.pinimg.com/736x/29/2c/8d/292c8d2c3c056edb6fa1e7932f9a18fd.jpg
- and more e.g. Brian playing harp at Sarm studio


Nicely done !

Has a proper archive of photos from Queen's studio sessions ever been assembled? If not, then maybe we should do it.



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Posted: 17 Apr 18, 05:53 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I'd definitely buy your book (or a book like that) Sebastian.

I've got this Day to Day book from The Beach Boys, and it's amazing.


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Posted: 17 Apr 18, 05:56 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Ugh, imagine having to work with a tracksheet like the one you see Brian holding in the God save the Queen video Bob posted.

I'd go crazy


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Posted: 17 Apr 18, 10:12 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

From my perspective a near as damn it totally accurate history of recording dates and studios used plus instruments etc would be a great book
I do suspect it wouldn't break any publishing records, but it would be nice, so go for it Seb if you feel so inclinded... I recently bought an amazing book detailing in incredible accuracy all the drums Roger has used or owned, frankly it was a stunning body of work, and as a drummer it finally nailed many questions I had and such things as tom sizes and why the move to Yamaha etc
It would seem to me if you have all this knowledge sitting there it should be released or used in some way rather than simply on moanzone...


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Posted: 17 Apr 18, 11:39 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

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In that sense, there's nothing that'd make a book written by me in any way special or worthy of your dough.


I would buy it. Not only because i am sure you will do an excellent job. You have proven to us many times you do your research and you have a knack for writing. :)


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Posted: 17 Apr 18, 11:41 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Togg, re:

>It would seem to me if you have all this knowledge sitting there it should be released or used in some way rather than simply on moanzone...

A website is much more fluid and can be edited and updated as more, updated or corrected information becomes available. To be perfectly honest, it's exactly what the official site should be hosting, but those fucking idiots can't see past flogging a few t-shirts.

It's also what Greg should have done with the Queen Live book, but, hey.........

I'd possibly be in the market for a physical beast though if it was the only way of getting everything in one place.

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Posted: 17 Apr 18, 13:17 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

To Chopin1995 ...


I have found the following description for these images:

"The band at the airport arriving back to London, England from Japan in May 1975. Photo by Erica Echenberg."

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Posted: 17 Apr 18, 13:19 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

... and by Chris Walter.

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Posted: 17 Apr 18, 13:23 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

The Real Wizard wrote:

Chopin1995 wrote:

If I can add anything, rehearsals began not later than the 1st August, look at the date here (from the photo sessions at Ridge Farm) - http://photofeatures.photoshelter.com/image/I00000Fb.Tnq4ejE

Also, I was doing some research lately and more than 200 photos can be found from rehearsing/recording the album (this can be more than 250 photos overall, including Brian's stereos shared in his book, or maybe over 300, who knows?):

- at least 6 photos of the band going from London to rehearsal e.g. http://www.photofeatures.com/queen/ppages/ppage28.html , http://cs419924.vk.me/v419924507/744c/aYa7Yzrqpl4.jpg
- at least 16 photos of Queen receiving Music Life gifts at Ridge Farm e.g. http://cs419924.vk.me/v419924507/7474/L9O48JKtVoE.jpg
- at least 173 photos of the band rehearing/relaxing at Ridge Farm (including playing snooker, posing at the entrance gate?, drinking tea probably, sitting on the grass, sitting at the swimming pool, playing tennis, rehearsal itself and more). No need of examples I think.
- at least 14 photos of the session at Sarm studio with Eddie Howell, probably in August as well e.g. http://i.pinimg.com/originals/6c/9b/a7/6c9ba74ac5a6e22a60c7ad3f34195cb3.jpg
- at least 8 photos of the proper recording session at Scorpio (late august/early septemer) e.g. http://i.pinimg.com/736x/29/2c/8d/292c8d2c3c056edb6fa1e7932f9a18fd.jpg
- and more e.g. Brian playing harp at Sarm studio


Nicely done !

Has a proper archive of photos from Queen's studio sessions ever been assembled? If not, then maybe we should do it.


!!! This is exactly the idea I have and why I started collecting those photos! I also did The Miracle and I was able to find 27 photos. From what I know this can be done for at least 13 albums. I've never seen any Queen II studio session photo and Innuendo as well, sadly...


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Posted: 17 Apr 18, 13:28 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

To Jozef...

Thank you for this info. I must say I wasn't sure these photo are from the circumstances I stated initially. I think you're right.

So from my first post:

1.- at least 6 photos of the band going from London to rehearsal
2.- at least 14 photos of the session at Sarm studio with Eddie Howell, probably in August as well

doesn't belong to ANATO sessions.

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Posted: 17 Apr 18, 22:36 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

MusicFan15 wrote:

So, I think I’ve got the picture now. Queen went to Ridge Farm and Penhros Court to write songs and record demos


There's no evidence that they recorded any demos there. They rehearsed, that's all we know.

MusicFan15 wrote:

heading to Rockfield on the 24th August.


Again, no: they'd already recorded at Rockfield on or before the 18th, and a rough mix of Bo Rhap had been done at The Roundhouse on the 22nd.

MusicFan15 wrote:

I went to a display about the history of Rockfield and it had a sheet with the date and the singings which the group did too.


The signings, IIRC, were done three decades after the fact. The sheet with the date is based on the 1995 SOS article, which has loads of inaccuracies, including that one.

MusicFan15 wrote:

There’s nothing going against the fact that might’ve recorded certain things at Ridge Farm and Penhros.


There's nothing going for that either. It's like saying, 'sure, Senegal will win the World Cup - there's nothing against the fact maybe it could happen.'

MusicFan15 wrote:

At Rockfield they concentrated on Bohemian Rhapsody


No. They recorded other pieces for the album as well. '39 and 'Best Friend' have been confirmed, also 'Good Company' is strongly suspected. The rest could've also been started there.

MusicFan15 wrote:

as that song alone took three weeks to record.


Again, that's the kiddie version of the story, the one they tell to make it sound romantic and spectacular. In reality, evidence points out albums being recorded as projects where they'd be jumping from song to song and using several studios at the same time. So, it'd be perfectly possible for someone to be doing something for one song and then someone else being elsewhere mixing something else, etc.

MusicFan15 wrote:

The London studios used would’ve been to finish of the album and do the final mixes of other songs.


All the mixes were done at Sarm, including the single.

MusicFan15 wrote:

Presumably they spend about a month at Rockfield before moving back to London?


Source?

Chopin1995 wrote:

2.- at least 14 photos of the session at Sarm studio with Eddie Howell, probably in August as well


No, not August: January.


John hated Hot Space. Frederick's favourite singer was not Paul Rodgers. Rog didn't compose 'Innuendo.' Witness testimonies are often inaccurate. Wales is not in England. 'Bo Rhap' hasn't got 180 vox.
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Posted: 18 Apr 18, 07:43 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

dudeofqueen wrote:

Togg, re:

>It would seem to me if you have all this knowledge sitting there it should be released or used in some way rather than simply on moanzone...

A website is much more fluid and can be edited and updated as more, updated or corrected information becomes available. To be perfectly honest, it's exactly what the official site should be hosting, but those fucking idiots can't see past flogging a few t-shirts.

It's also what Greg should have done with the Queen Live book, but, hey.........

I'd possibly be in the market for a physical beast though if it was the only way of getting everything in one place.



Agreed, but the website searchable with easy, all the information Seb has posted here gets lost and is practically impossible to find unless you trawl through thousands of posts, so sure in theory a website is better, but if Seb would like to earn some money, maybe a free to access website is less appealing?




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Posted: 18 Apr 18, 09:25 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Togg, re:

>but if Seb would like to earn some money, maybe a free to access website is less appealing?

Using adverts might generate some cash if that's the end goal, but I suspect it's not a motivating factor for him.......?

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Posted: 18 Apr 18, 10:55 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Sebastian wrote:

Chopin1995 wrote:

2.- at least 14 photos of the session at Sarm studio with Eddie Howell, probably in August as well


No, not August: January.


Yes Seb, I know thanks to you that's why I'm excluding it :)

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Posted: 18 Apr 18, 20:21 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

By the way...

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John hated Hot Space. Frederick's favourite singer was not Paul Rodgers. Rog didn't compose 'Innuendo.' Witness testimonies are often inaccurate. Wales is not in England. 'Bo Rhap' hasn't got 180 vox.