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Posted: 10 Jan 19, 13:08 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Dead On Time is a favourite of mine and it’s a shame Queen never played it live. Does somebody know if there are any recorded outtakes of Dead On Time, from the Jazz recording sessions? Would be great to hear alternative versions of this song!

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Posted: 10 Jan 19, 13:43 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Nothing has emerged yet, but unreleased takes do exist and were played last year:

http://www.queenzone.com/forums/1518355/greg-brooks-to-reveal-bohrhap-official-soundtrack-album-jazz-outtakes.aspx?page=5

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Posted: 10 Jan 19, 15:03 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Queen have such a lot of archives and outtakes galore but refuse to get them out there.
Freddie has been dead 27 years and we have not had that much to crow about have we?

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Posted: 10 Jan 19, 15:09 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Not the same thing obviously, but you can hear a bit of the Dead on Time solo on Brian's Starlicks video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wkhmDEKeaBU


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Posted: 10 Jan 19, 17:16 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Thanks guys!
It is indeed a shame that not a lot of archive material has been released yet. A big box with such material would sell so good as there are a lot of us craving for that material. Well, I keep dreaming on ????

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Posted: 10 Jan 19, 17:17 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

without the four question marks ??

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Posted: 11 Jan 19, 16:18 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I guess they won't release a boxset because they're affraid that they would make Freddie boring. (wink wink).

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Posted: 11 Jan 19, 22:37 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

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Posted: 11 Jan 19, 22:38 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Something wrong with my computer as it keeps on spitting out question marks unintentionally

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Posted: 12 Jan 19, 00:37 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

EMI2019 wrote:

Freddie has been dead 27 years and we have not had that much to crow about have we?


What have Queen ever done for us since Freddie died?

* Made In Heaven, containing the last of Freddie's recordings. Yes, MIH, they've given us that.

* A plethora of solo albums and solo shows. Been to a few of those.

* The Freddie Mercury Solo collection, with at least 50 unheard demos and out-takes, Wreckage and Ibex audio, full compilation of his videos and several unheard interviews. Well there's that.

* Full Milton Keynes show (audio and video)

* The complete Montreal '81 audio with tracks not on the video. Yep, there's that as well.

* The De Lane Lea demos from 1971. Forgot about that.

* The first night at Wembley '86, video and audio. Yep, that too.

* Complete Budapest '86 audio with tracks missing from the video. Aye, Budapest. They did that as well.

* The previously unreleased/unheard "Let Me In Your Heart Again". That was a nice surprise.

* A full Roger Taylor boxset with rarities and previously unreleased video compilation. Lovely set that was.

* The full Rainbow show on blu-ray with unreleased footage from the March show. Aye, add that to the wee list.

* The full rainbow shows on CD, with previously unheard live material such as "Great King Rat" and "The Fairy Feller's Master-Stroke". Oh aye, that came out of the blue and people got excited.

* The full Hammersmith 1975 show (video and audio) as well as rare footage from Japan '75. There's that.

* The Complete BBC Sessions. Don't forget the BBC Sessions.

* The "Days of Our Lives" doc on blu-ray, which is one of the best docs about the band, including rare videos and unseen HD rushes. That too!

* The NOTW boxset with unheard studio sessions and "Sleeping On The Sidewalk" heard live for the first time. Oh, and Bob Harris footage. Almost missed that!

But apart from the last audio recording of Freddie, the big boxset, the unheard live material, the solo albums and shows, the De Lane Lea recordings, the full BBC sessions, the great new footage, unreleased studio tracks such as "LMIYHA" and "TMBMTLTT" and the NOTW stuff......

WHAT HAVE Queen ever done for us since Freddie died?



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Posted: 12 Jan 19, 03:00 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

- FM Tribute Show (and eventual DVD release)
- On fire At the bowl
- I think Wembley 86 2nd show came out before the 1st show also counts - as that was too was posthumous (at least when released in its entirety)
- GVH1 and GVH2 in 5.1 surround - that was a pretty big deal for its time
- Making of ANATO 2hr doc (i think)
- ANATO in 5.1
- The Game in 5.1
- Released the full Live Aid show in HD with Rocks in Montreal
- 40 Years of Queen Book
- Queen in 3D

i'm sure there's more to add


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Posted: 12 Jan 19, 09:54 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

How about the Queen Anthology Box set that Jacky Gunn promised Queen fans over 23 years ago then?
Even The Beatles & Bowie have released more stuff in 5 years than Queen has in 27 years.
The best things still have not had a release.

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Posted: 12 Jan 19, 13:57 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Bull. Bowie didn't do a new album for 13 years, then issues 2 and sadly passed. Most of the recent output has been reissues of reissues and a few nice shows. The Beatles did an Anthology but there's no way it was the best of the best either... I've got better Beatles stuff in my own collection. They also mostly output reissues of reissues. Nicely done, yes, but still reissues.

I'm wondering whether bootlegs and open shares are actually the problem. A lot of stuff has been pinched, shared and sold behind their backs and then openly paraded in front of them by collectors and fans. Even stuff played at conventions. Just a thought.

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Posted: 13 Jan 19, 18:03 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

@ Thistle: it seems quite a list, but considering (1) it took them 27 years to release all that and (2) the BIG archive of unreleased recording and live material, it’s really not that much. Have you ever looked at what The Who released as live recordings? Or a band like Pearl Jam? Both groups have released almost 100 (!) OFFICIAL bootlegs.


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Posted: 13 Jan 19, 18:42 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

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@ Thistle: it seems quite a list, but considering (1) it took them 27 years to release all that and (2) the BIG archive of unreleased recording and live material, it’s really not that much. Have you ever looked at what The Who released as live recordings? Or a band like Pearl Jam? Both groups have released almost 100 (!) OFFICIAL bootlegs.


The point is Gerry stated Queen hadn't given us much to crow about. The list shows otherwise. It doesn't matter whether this took 2 years or 27 years, we still have things now that we didn't have before. Imagine they had just shrivelled up altogether. I don't see why people measure Queen's output against others and expect that they should just "get".

Between all the official releases and what has been obtained and circulated amongst fans, we have a wealth of material. We could have it all and some fucker would still moan ;)



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Posted: 13 Jan 19, 23:18 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Well, I think we agree to disagree ;-)

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Posted: 14 Jan 19, 20:28 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I dunno man, what if Queenzone collectively created it's own box sets?

It may have been done, but I don't recall it.

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Posted: 17 Jan 19, 03:50 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

The Fonz wrote:

I dunno man, what if Queenzone collectively created it's own box sets?

It may have been done, but I don't recall it.


Where would we get all the stuff in Queen's vault?

A kind of magic, perhaps?

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Posted: 17 Jan 19, 09:08 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Ale Solan wrote:

The Fonz wrote:

I dunno man, what if Queenzone collectively created it's own box sets?

It may have been done, but I don't recall it.


Where would we get all the stuff in Queen's vault?

A kind of magic, perhaps?


Perhaps we can ask Greg nicely.

I mean, he usually gets hostile comments from the board here. What if we were kind to him? Vaults wide open!!!

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Posted: 17 Jan 19, 14:40 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Golden Salmon wrote:

Ale Solan wrote:

The Fonz wrote:

I dunno man, what if Queenzone collectively created it's own box sets?

It may have been done, but I don't recall it.


Where would we get all the stuff in Queen's vault?

A kind of magic, perhaps?


Perhaps we can ask Greg nicely.

I mean, he usually gets hostile comments from the board here. What if we were kind to him? Vaults wide open!!!


Greg attracted hostility because he kind of has an attitude problem himself, and I recall him boasting about his position.

Apart from that, he may have access to these vaults, but he has no say about what actually gets released - that's Maylor and Beach. If he "accidentally" allowed some out, he wouldn't have a job for much longer.

That said, what HAS he been doing for the best part of 20 years? That stuff must be catalogued by now.....