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Posted: 13 Jun 19, 14:06 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

aristide1 wrote:

Art rock, alternative rock and experimental rock genres (with a touch of electronica and space rock) usually describe alienated music for alienated audience.
It's a surprise to me that people with allegedly high musical tastes talk about Radiohead and Muse.

Maybe your children used to listen this music and you empathize with them, or you are an amateur musician who feels that your playing is as good if not better than theirs, etc.
Because I can't imagine you actually like this kind of anti-music.


"Anti-music", or more generally "anti-art", has been the go-to slur for the second-rate music critic utterly unable to comprehend what's placed before him since Eduard Hanslick.

The way you use the term alienation strongly suggests that you've heard it somewhere, didn't grasp its meaning quite fully enough, and are now delighted to have the opportunity to use it...only to *just* fail.

But at one point, you actually strike home and say something that, were it not obvious that you didn't mean it that way, would have been truly insightful:

Because I can't imagine you actually like this kind of anti-music.


That's the whole point - you can't imagine it. This has nothing to do with the music (or "anti-music") in question, and everything with your utter inability or refusal to consider anything that falls outside your comfort zone. Although you (knowingly or unknowingly) combined a traditionalist conservative view of music with Marxist social theory, the irony is that you are doing so in the most petty-bourgeois way whilst feigning a kind of enlightened radicalism.

It truly is regrettable that you probably don't understand any of the above.


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Posted: 13 Jun 19, 15:44 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Opinions are like Radiohead leaks. Everyone has 18 hour-long files of them.

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Posted: 13 Jun 19, 15:53 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I would like to give them a listen, I imagine.

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Posted: 13 Jun 19, 16:15 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

The Kurgan wrote:

I would like to give them a listen, I imagine.


Highly recommend to have a listen.



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Posted: 13 Jun 19, 16:43 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Yeah it's great. Like I say, I'm not a huge huge fan but it's like an audio documentary - or flicking through a scrapbook. Recommended.

I've been thinking how I'd tackle it if it was, say, a similar volume of Bowie '71 / '72 material. Headphones on, sat on my beanbag eating crisps. Get into the 1970s, absorb the majesty.

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Posted: 13 Jun 19, 18:01 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

So I've heard about the term alienation, don't now what it means but I'm delighted to use it. Are you serious thomasquinn?

You certainly don't miss any opportunity to present me in an unfavorable light, but despite the increased budget allocated for this purpose over time the result it totally opposite, believe me.
You only manage to define yourself as an intellectual stalker, a rare breed but not superior to the ordinary stalker, since your distilled comments display even more meanness and lack of truth.

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Posted: 13 Jun 19, 19:08 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Wilki Amieva wrote:

The 'masters' are mp3 files @ 128 kbps, each a bulk rip of one of the 18 MDs. This is a shame as it means a lossy source (MD) was re-encoded in a lossy format (mp3), further degrading the audio. Also, there are no track splits and no documentation other than scans of the actual discs. A fantastic listen, anyway!


No - the leak was low bitrate mp3s. What Radiohead have released is straight transfers of the Minidiscs. If you download in flac, WAV or aiff formats on bandcamp there is no further lossy encoding. Minidiscs are lossy, but ATRAC compression is vastly superior to mp3.



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Posted: 13 Jun 19, 19:21 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Penetration_Guru wrote:

This is technically what Queen tried to do with the Top 100 Bootlegs. They just cocked up the execution.


It isn't. QPL were just re-releasing widely available bootlegs of live material in mp3 form. These are the personal working tapes of Thom Yorke in higher resolution.



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Posted: 13 Jun 19, 20:24 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

What year was the 100 Bootleg thing? I remember when Spotify started the Queen section was made up entirely of those bootlegs. Extraordinary really.

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Posted: 14 Jun 19, 00:02 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

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WTF is your problem bucsateflon? You post that Radiohead is shite or something to that effect and either everyone agrees with you or they are demented. Arguing opinions is useless so if you have nothing else to contribute to this thread get lost in space.


We should probably stop trying to reason with internet trolls in their mothers' basements.


Why were you in bucsateflon's mother's basement?

Is she hot?


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Posted: 14 Jun 19, 19:13 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Oh, Bucsateflon Co.
We really love you, and we need you

And oh, Bucsateflon Co .
We'd really love to believe you

But now everyone's trolling round
We gotta sort it out somehow

Oh, we said "Now go"
We said we'd like you to, because we've read you

And oh, Bucsateflon Co.
We know if you don't post then none of us do

And everything's under parr
We've gotta up our game somehow

Yeah, yeah
Queenzone's burning down
We gotta put it out somehow


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Posted: 14 Jun 19, 19:17 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Banana Co!

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Posted: 14 Jun 19, 19:20 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Absolute choon

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Posted: 14 Jun 19, 19:47 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

dysan wrote:

What year was the 100 Bootleg thing? I remember when Spotify started the Queen section was made up entirely of those bootlegs. Extraordinary really.




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Posted: 14 Jun 19, 21:23 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

eh?

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Posted: 15 Jun 19, 07:12 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

dysan wrote:

Oh, Bucsateflon Co.
We really love you, and we need you

And oh, Bucsateflon Co .
We'd really love to believe you

But now everyone's trolling round
We gotta sort it up somehow

Oh, we said "Now go"
We said we'd like you to, because we've read you

And oh, Bucsateflon Co.
We know if you don't post then none of us do

And everything's under parr
We've gotta up our game somehow

Yeah, yeah
Queenzone's burning down
We gotta put it out somehow


Great song. Nice lyric change! :)



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Posted: 15 Jun 19, 10:03 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

You forgot to mention that Bucsateflon song is dedicated to The Wizard, who apparently has earned the right to aberrate from time to time (now is one of those times), while the other must justify every syllable.
The usual queenzone multiple standards.

The guys from the attached picture are the most important band of the past 25 years, right?
Just to be sure, because I'm a little confused.

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This has been downloaded 12 time(s).


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Posted: 15 Jun 19, 10:52 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Like I said a few times before, I'm not a huge fan and find much of their output to be style over substance but I'm really struggling to think of a comparable band with the same longevity in that time frame.

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Posted: 15 Jun 19, 11:16 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Substance and longevity, that's fine. How about Threshold, Pallas, IQ, Pendragon & Arena, Marillion?
Maybe not the best bands, but at least doesn't make you ashamed to listen them.

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Posted: 15 Jun 19, 11:34 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

These are all much earlier yes? And yes lots of bands going further into weird, but retaining the commercial output too?