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Posted: 13 Oct 19, 06:13 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

“ Pre orders don't get included in sales until they're shipped“

Wrong. See links above.

Billboard doesn’t track US postage (fact) LOL

I compared Freddie to Adam when Freddie was 37... ‘Love Kills’


Your post offers no explanation on Adam’s poor sales. Fact. Especially considering streaming is included in the Billboard Hot 100, see links above. In fact, the more you say streaming wasn’t available in 1984, the more it looks that Freddie had to work harder to sell his product =)


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Posted: 13 Oct 19, 09:04 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Yesss.... here’s what I’m buying everyone for Christmas

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Posted: 13 Oct 19, 09:10 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

MisterCosmicc wrote:

“ Pre orders don't get included in sales until they're shipped“

Wrong. See links above.

Billboard doesn’t track US postage (fact) LOL

I compared Freddie to Adam when Freddie was 37... ‘Love Kills’


Your post offers no explanation on Adam’s poor sales. Fact. Especially considering streaming is included in the Billboard Hot 100, see links above. In fact, the more you say streaming wasn’t available in 1984, the more it looks that Freddie had to work harder to sell his product =)


If you can't see the impact streaming has had on artists I can't help you, it's blatantly obvious to most people. I did explain that the fact Adam has low numbers of followers means his streaming numbers will be lower than someone with millions of followers - that's just obvious and shouldn't need stating. When someone like Taylor with 40 million followers releases music if even half her fans check it out it will go to the top of the chart, then it will be added to more streaming lists and get played on radio, then more people who don't follow her will hear it. If someone with 1.4 million followers and probably some aren't actively following anymore releases music they won't hit the top of the chart so won't get on tons of big streaming lists and won't get tons of new people hearing their music and won't get added to major radio stations so again not a lot of new listeners to check them out and stream them. I don't have all the answers but I don't think it's necessary to keep putting the guy down either.

Back in the day you heard peoples music on radio more, more people listened to radio then than now since most people just make their own playlists and then you bought an album if you liked their song often without even hearing the rest of it so radio isn't the major player but it does help somewhat. There's pluses and minuses to the streaming situation compared to the way things were in the 80's for people with huge fan bases it's great and that's why it's the same people charting all the time but it makes it pretty boring IMO and it's more a popularity game than about the music.

As to pre orders being included, which links are you talking about because the one I read didn't say they were included it didn't even mention it?


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Posted: 13 Oct 19, 09:19 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Pre-ordered tracks are counted as soon as you order them. It’s a legal
financial exchange which means it’s a sale. Some record companies and artists pre-order albums to reach the charts faster or sooner, or to reach higher positions. You can google it. With your expertise of the music business, I’m surprised you didn’t know that.


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Posted: 13 Oct 19, 09:22 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

“ Back in the day you heard peoples music on radio more, more people listened to radio then than now since most people just make their own playlists and then you bought an album if you liked their song often without even hearing the rest of it so radio isn't the major player but it does help somewhat.”


And there’s 100 artists on the Billboard Hot 100 who have to deal with a lack of listeners tuning into radio stations as well.


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Posted: 13 Oct 19, 09:37 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

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Pre-ordered tracks are counted as soon as you order them. It’s a legal
financial exchange which means it’s a sale. Some record companies and artists pre-order albums to reach the charts faster or sooner, or to reach higher positions. You can google it. With your expertise of the music business, I’m surprised you didn’t know that.


I don't have time right now to check that out (on my way to a meeting) so will look later but if you're right and they are counted then that would agree with what I said about streaming, he needs lots more followers and especially one's who actually use streaming as a medium.

Either way I don't see the reason to keep going on about his numbers, IMO a lot of the music on the charts isn't what I'd choose to listen to and I prefer to just like what I like regardless if the artist is at the top of the billboard chart or not, I don't use that as a measure of talent personally.



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Posted: 13 Oct 19, 09:48 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

“I don't use that as a measure of talent personally.”

You would if Adam was at the top of the charts eight now LOL


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Posted: 14 Oct 19, 03:02 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

=)


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Posted: 14 Oct 19, 03:03 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

After I posted the facts, I noticed.


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Posted: 14 Oct 19, 13:52 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

You have nothing to do with it. It is a waste of time to try to discuss with you as it goes nowhere other than nasty remarks about Adam, QAL and the poster. Why bother? You think what you like and that is it. Good for you.

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Posted: 14 Oct 19, 20:34 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

He failed


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Posted: 14 Oct 19, 21:14 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

MisterCosmicc wrote:

He failed


Those cancelled appearances hurt him I think.

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Posted: 15 Oct 19, 18:56 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

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Lambert should just call it a day, ok he has toured the world with the greatest rock band ever but by himself he is nothing.
I wonder if he has twigged that fact?


Since there is more upcoming Q+AL shows, seems he has a firm grip on those coattails.
I wouldn't call the guy nothing, but he has put Q+AL first, better money I guess than what his own career can manage.

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Posted: 16 Oct 19, 20:04 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

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@iron Butterfly: Lambert is nothing without Queen.
His last 6 singles failed to chart and his solo career is in tatters.
Yes he knows where he is well off and that is with Queen but not good for the bands image.
He does make his homosexuality dominant before the music and his dress sense is terrible. What a complete knob he was on Johnathan Ross tv show it was very cringe worthy,


Yep spot on. He is an arrogant twat who is just acting his admiration of Freddie. mean look at him while he is wearing this coronet. While Freddie took the piss this tool is acting as if was the King of the world.

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Posted: 16 Oct 19, 20:23 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

K770i wrote:

@iron Butterfly: Lambert is nothing without Queen.
His last 6 singles failed to chart and his solo career is in tatters.
Yes he knows where he is well off and that is with Queen but not good for the bands image.
He does make his homosexuality dominant before the music and his dress sense is terrible. What a complete knob he was on Johnathan Ross tv show it was very cringe worthy,


He still has a firm grip on those those coattails, I don't know what it will be like once Q+AL is over, although I'm sure he will be singing covers of Queen songs and those covers of other artists.
It's funny that some people make him to be all that, when he isn't. Even with touring with Brian and Roger this past summer seems not to do much much for his solo career. With his cancelled appearances, it's going to be harder for him to get that back.

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Posted: 18 Oct 19, 00:36 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I would rather be king of the world than a braying jackass like you, since that is how you act on here.

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Posted: 18 Oct 19, 00:42 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

snifflese wrote:

I would rather be king of the world than a braying jackass like you, since that is how you act on here.


Who is that meant for? Anyways, you are no king, and nor is Lambert

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Posted: 18 Oct 19, 01:27 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

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I would rather be king of the world than a braying jackass like you, since that is how you act on here.


What specifically are you complaining about this time?

Why are you calling me a jackass?


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Posted: 18 Oct 19, 02:04 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Adam spent more money on music videos for his new singles than he’s made on sales. That’s sad.


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Posted: 18 Oct 19, 03:16 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Iron Butterfly wrote:

snifflese wrote:

I would rather be king of the world than a braying jackass like you, since that is how you act on here.


Who is that meant for? Anyways, you are no king, and nor is Lambert

Meant to insult me see my comment about Lameass trying to be King of the world and failing miserably