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Posted: 14 Dec 19, 23:38 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

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1. If you are posting many messages in a short space of time, you are doing something wrong. Try, where possible to post one topic instead of five.

Haha, well it's not hard to find that in the QAL section, twenty million of the fucking things all saying the same shit over and over.


I guess it's OK if all done to promote AL of course.
Seriously, why are you cursing/swearing? SaintJiub and I are hardly being offensive here.


Reading on here is enough to make anyone swear, it's just one long endless post or may as well be saying the same thing over and over for years.


Who is the author of this thread that is solely about AL and has nothing to do with Queen?

Are you really surprised at the 56 pages of backlash?

Aside from "Super Wanker 10" and "Runneth at the Mouth", most of the criticism of the thread author is justified.

Not posting in the correct forum section violates forum guidlelines.

The topic author should post this AL solo stuff in the Personal Section. How can you not understand this?

Your defending of the author of this thread is baffling ... especially knowing that you have articulately posted on QZ in the past.




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Posted: 14 Dec 19, 23:39 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

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You are defending her. By doing so, you are letting her know that it's ok what she does. It's not. Most of it is utter crap.
I do post about Queen. So does Saint Jiub and other people here. Ask yourself or them why the two Glamberts that come here can't be bothered to discuss Queen on a Queen board. Because they do t give a shit that's why. Freddie's dead, not coming back, that was then and this is now, and other such crap. I've recently seen the reaction from the two main Glamberts who needed it pointed out what the 24th of November was about. Two people had a go at me for that.
Ffs, when people come here to do not much else but to hype up and promote and defend AL as if it's a full time job or something, it's their world's that is tiny as can be.
ALloyd you ate doing here is letting SweetCaroline know it's ok to what she does and has done. Once again, poor little SweetCaroline is never wrong and can do no wrong. If she wants to spam, lust, dream, gossip about AL, then Adamtopia would be a better place for her. It was kindly suggested about posting in the personal section here, but she didn't even take that in. She wants this thread and subforum to be her playground and fantasy world. I've seen her reactions when she can't get her own way.
You don't realise what she does is too much. Can't even answer a question about Queen when it's asked, see above. I'm sure she will back with more AL "love" and a hissy fit at me.


I just don't care enough about what she does, that's not defending or condoning that's ignoring, it's simple in my world, if something doesn't interest me I just scroll on past it, or usually I do but this endless bitchfest on here is a whole other ball game, it's relentless bitching for the sake of it about stuff that's just not important. You might think the 24th should be top of everyone's priority list and that everyone should want to talk about Freddie but that's not how life works, people like what they like and if that doesn't interest two people on here then so what, they're here for the current collaboration, that's their prerogative, they don't have to be die hard Queen fans to love QAL, the two things don't have to go hand in hand for some people, you can't make people want to talk about stuff they just don't want to. It works both ways, people can't be made to like and want to discuss QAL either and that's their prerogative, each to their own.



I absolutely understand that not everyone feels the same way as I do about many things. To come here spamming purposely etc about AL is another ballgame. To pretty much ignore Freddie's and Queen's history while posting on a Queen board is just as bad...it's almost as if a person or two here is afraid that will take away from AL if Freddie is mentioned. SweetCaroline has said Q+AL shows are AL's time to shine for pity sake. Goes to show how she thinks and feels that AL is the center of it all. Sorry, not sorry to say, he isn't.
There is never any need for her to spam about AL so much, and the way she it does is horrible, all to get back because of what some say about AL. Hey, let's have SweetCaroline link to a pic of a young AL with a gutair to try to prove he played the gutair, let's have her post pics of him with his family, all done here and elsewhere...come on now, Rockchic. She should know differently by now, but nope, she doesn't. I think something she can't help but to do, and to know alot of it is done on purpose just do she can relatalite ( her own recent words by the way ) ...there is no excuse whatsoever, but she feels justified by doing it. And she will keep on doing it as long as she's defended, coddled, because she's been doing it since Q+AL began. Oh she say she was excited, and that's why she joined Queen boards and the big bad Queen fans, especially me are the cause of her troubles. Sorry, bullshit. She wanted to promote AL any chance she could get. That is spam. Her latest tactics is to say I'm the spammer, funny enough. The irony.

How she has managed to get you defending her, I don't know, it seems you have fallen for the she is the victim crap she tries to pull. What I said in particular about the 24th of November was in no way offensive, but two people here took it as an insult, one kept on spamming about AL, and two people hada go at me for it. Goes to show that they are not here for Freddie or Queen. It's Lambert. It's not even for Brian and Roger. Hell knows it's not for Freddie and Queen.

It's known SweetCaroline can't stand Sam Smith, for the only reasons that he's more popular than AL and thinks Sam is competition for AL. She has made that clear for years now. So you see, read in her posts she can't ignore what or who she doesn't like, if it's Sam, Adele, anyone she thinks is in AL's way, even posters on a message board. She has made it an agenda to hate my guts all because she does not agree with me, and can't get her own way. Even the posters here that said she should die and kill herself never had a reaction from her like I get. She doesn't otice I defended her at thone times, but hey I'm like Hitler and the Gestapo in her eyes. Go figure that out.

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Posted: 15 Dec 19, 04:42 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Just like SweetCaroline, rockchic65 prefers Adam over Freddie as well. #facts


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Posted: 15 Dec 19, 04:58 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

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Just like SweetCaroline, rockchic65 prefers Adam over Freddie as well. #facts


I dunno about that to be honest. I think she is a Queen fan, and not a cray cray Glambert.
In any case IMO, there is a big difference than being an AL fan and a Glambert.
People can be Queen fans and AL fans, but gee at the one here who says she's a Queen fan and proves otherwise.

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Posted: 15 Dec 19, 06:10 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Don’t think rockchic is defending Caroline. Many times I’ve suggested scrolling past and ignoring posts by runner, and it is certainly not in defense of runner. Easy to see her point, and easy to simply ignore.

The problem here is that every thread devolves into the tireless nonsense. This thread was doomed from the beginning. Especially when the original poster created it with the intention of promoting Adam (bigging him up?) bypassing QAL altogether. Best live singer on the planet. She knew that would stir up a reaction here.

And here we are 56 pages later. In the same squabbles as 56 months ago.

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Posted: 15 Dec 19, 06:11 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

And... another double post.

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Posted: 15 Dec 19, 06:43 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Sorry, got to do this — these “Glamberts” are way crazier than I have ever been:

“6:55 am flight Miami to NJ. Landed at 9:54. Train to NY 10:16. Train to CT 11:30. Uber to hotel 2:40. Hotel check in 2:55. Rolling in at 3:03 for a 30 second M&G at a mall in CT #priceless #missionaccomplished #workoutdone #craziestmeetandgreetever #Glamberts #ilikeyourhorns”

“In which due to the generousity of Santa Claus/the Universe, @adamlambert shows up at my local mall collecting toys & turns out to be as sweet, lovely, & kind in person & energy as imagined & greeted us like old friends. That plus green snakeskin bootssss Happy Everything All!”

“Just met Adam. Good GOD he smells heavenly. And he’s just soooooo gorgeous. And....... WOW. WOW. WOW!!!”



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Posted: 15 Dec 19, 06:47 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Only logical explanation for that last post is that you’ve got to be trolling at this point.

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Posted: 15 Dec 19, 07:05 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

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Sorry, got to do this — these “Glamberts” are way crazier than I have ever been:

“6:55 am flight Miami to NJ. Landed at 9:54. Train to NY 10:16. Train to CT 11:30. Uber to hotel 2:40. Hotel check in 2:55. Rolling in at 3:03 for a 30 second M&G at a mall in CT #priceless #missionaccomplished #workoutdone #craziestmeetandgreetever #Glamberts #ilikeyourhorns”

“In which due to the generousity of Santa Claus/the Universe, @adamlambert shows up at my local mall collecting toys & turns out to be as sweet, lovely, & kind in person & energy as imagined & greeted us like old friends. That plus green snakeskin bootssss Happy Everything All!”

“Just met Adam. Good GOD he smells heavenly. And he’s just soooooo gorgeous. And....... WOW. WOW. WOW!!!”



No, SweetCaroline you didn't have to do that. You aren't helping yourself. Surely you know that? Obviously not.
You once posted AL's flight details on QOL while he was actually travelling the plane! A live tracker sort of thing. So, you are even more nuts. And now you are trying to deflect on other Glamberts to try make yourself less crazy. You are the one who rushes here to post shit. Like I say, you can't help yourself at all.
What does those tweets have to do with anything here? Notning, but hey you purposely do this shit. You are a grandmother, busily copying and pasting tweets about how AL smells and how gorgeous he is for fucks sake. Is your brain stuck on the mind of a preteen or something?
There is no one I've seen on the internet more obsessed about a public figure than you are, because you "love" the guy. I think your posts only prove how obsessed you are.
Seriously, it's scary. No joke. Even with the fact you do this shit on purpose, is crazy. You no doubt know and don't care what you are doing and you don't care how. Do you not get that this is a Queen board? I don't think so, because you are too busy pimping about AL.

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Posted: 15 Dec 19, 07:08 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

One thing I do believe we have in common is that we are passionate music lovers. I do admire that in everyone here. But when someone starts a thread “Best live singer on the planet” on a Queen forum that person is hoping to provoke a response. 99% of people here aren’t going to agree with them, and there’s no way they don’t know that.

That said, I genuinely hope everyone is enjoying a wonderful weekend, and as music lovers we can agree this is a masterpiece, as it cleanses our palates of all the bullshit on this thread.

http://youtu.be/crjs9Ubxi2Q

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Brancelli wrote:

Don’t think rockchic is defending Caroline. Many times I’ve suggested scrolling past and ignoring posts by runner, and it is certainly not in defense of runner. Easy to see her point, and easy to simply ignore.

The problem here is that every thread devolves into the tireless nonsense. This thread was doomed from the beginning. Especially when the original poster created it with the intention of promoting Adam (bigging him up?) bypassing QAL altogether. Best live singer on the planet. She knew that would stir up a reaction here.

And here we are 56 pages later. In the same squabbles as 56 months ago.


I disagree about rockchic defending her. I think she is.

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Posted: 15 Dec 19, 07:17 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Brancelli wrote:

One thing I do believe we have in common is that we are passionate music lovers. I do admire that in everyone here. But when someone starts a thread “Best live singer on the planet” on a Queen forum that person is hoping to provoke a response. 99% of people here aren’t going to agree with them, and there’s no way they don’t know that.

That said, I genuinely hope everyone is enjoying a wonderful weekend, and as music lovers we can agree this is a masterpiece, as it cleanses our palates of all the bullshit on this thread.

http://youtu.be/crjs9Ubxi2Q>
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Sure, we all are passionate music lovers. When it goes too far, that's another thing altogether. We have SweetCaroline deflecting on other Glamberts to make herself seem not as crazy. Too late for that methinks.
I love that song. I listened to it for the first time in ages on Saturday, it never loses it's power, even after all this time. One of there best songs, I'd put it their top 8 of the 70s by Queen.

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Posted: 15 Dec 19, 07:40 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I am posting a video only for Caroline, as it pertains to the thread “best live singer”, and my argument against Adam. As with this thread, nothing to do with QAL.

http://youtu.be/W9FlDMCo8LU

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Just like SweetCaroline, rockchic65 prefers Adam over Freddie as well. #facts


Wrong as usual - I'm a Queen fan and listen to Queen all the time (orginal Queen), I have tons of their music on a playlist in the car which I redo and rotate from time to time mixed in with a few other artists music that I love. On that playlist there are three of Adam's songs, one of which is a cover, not sure that makes me a glambert or preferring Adam I just don't see that endlessly calling him or arguing for years with SC has any point to it any more than arguing with runner or gerry would.



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Posted: 15 Dec 19, 09:00 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

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Don’t think rockchic is defending Caroline. Many times I’ve suggested scrolling past and ignoring posts by runner, and it is certainly not in defense of runner. Easy to see her point, and easy to simply ignore.

The problem here is that every thread devolves into the tireless nonsense. This thread was doomed from the beginning. Especially when the original poster created it with the intention of promoting Adam (bigging him up?) bypassing QAL altogether. Best live singer on the planet. She knew that would stir up a reaction here.

And here we are 56 pages later. In the same squabbles as 56 months ago.


You're right I'm not defending her I'm just defending anyone's right to like who they like and at this point I don't actually know if her posts are designed to stir up trouble or that she really doesn't get why not everyone is as enamoured with Adam as she is but regardless the reason the end result on every thread is the same page after page of nonsense about her, at this point every thread might as well be called lets argue with SC or about her, I just think there's more important things in life and complaining about a few links in the scheme of things is petty. At the moment there's nothing happening in the QAL world until January so nothing much to post about really but petty squables for years and years are just tedious IMO.


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Posted: 15 Dec 19, 09:06 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

rockchic65 wrote:

MisterCosmicc wrote:

Just like SweetCaroline, rockchic65 prefers Adam over Freddie as well. #facts


Wrong as usual - I'm a Queen fan and listen to Queen all the time (orginal Queen), I have tons of their music on a playlist in the car which I redo and rotate from time to time mixed in with a few other artists music that I love. On that playlist there are three of Adam's songs, one of which is a cover, not sure that makes me a glambert or preferring Adam I just don't see that endlessly calling him or arguing for years with SC has any point to it any more than arguing with runner or gerry would.



Just wondering, feel free to ignore my question, but what other music do you like? Not meant to pry, I find it interesting.
As for SweetCaroline, she has admitted recently as to why she does what she does, you were right. It's done to relatalite for things some say about AL.
I just hope you know SweetCaroline has and will argue with anyone who doesn't "love" AL or Q+AL. Look at her shit post above how a person thinks how AL smells and is gorgeous, it's the type of thing that has no place here in my books. But she just had to run here to copy and paste such shit as if it's the most important thing about AL.


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Posted: 15 Dec 19, 09:18 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

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How she has managed to get you defending her, I don't know, it seems you have fallen for the she is the victim crap she tries to pull. What I said in particular about the 24th of November was in no way offensive, but two people here took it as an insult, one kept on spamming about AL, and two people hada go at me for it. Goes to show that they are not here for Freddie or Queen. It's Lambert. It's not even for Brian and Roger. Hell knows it's not for Freddie and Queen.


She hasn't managed to get me defending "her" but defending her right to be a fan of whoever she likes and that happens to be Adam and if she prefers him to original Queen (and I've no idea one way or the other about that) then that's her right as well.

No one can be forced to be a fan of any person/group or be still bothered about something that happened 28 years ago, some people just aren't made that way and my comments about the 24th were in relation to that. Some fans are very emotional and will go to Switzerland just to stand in front of a statue of Freddie or attend the party each year in Switzerland and probably think about him every day and still mourn as if he were a family member but there are other fans who loved the music, loved to see him live and were sad for him and the band when he died but have moved on and though still love the music don't feel that same sense of loss 28 years later and I daresay the same happens in real life, some people lose a partner and remarry after a couple of years, others can't ever contemplate being with someone else and still can't get over their loss until they die - there's no one way to be and no one way to be a fan and I would defend anyone's right not to be made to feel bad for being either way.

What some Queen fans seem not to understand is that there are fans of Adam who feel exactly the same about him as you and others do about Freddie and get just as defensive about him as Freddie fans do.

This particular thread was either done to trigger and in that case better ignored or she genuinely can't understand why everyone doesn't agree about Adam and is still better ignored just like someone not thinking Freddie was the best ever would be best ignored, it's one opinion and in the scheme of things meaningless.

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Posted: 15 Dec 19, 09:25 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Saint Jiub wrote:

Who is the author of this thread that is solely about AL and has nothing to do with Queen?

Are you really surprised at the 56 pages of backlash?

Aside from "Super Wanker 10" and "Runneth at the Mouth", most of the criticism of the thread author is justified.

Not posting in the correct forum section violates forum guidlelines.

The topic author should post this AL solo stuff in the Personal Section. How can you not understand this?

Your defending of the author of this thread is baffling ... especially knowing that you have articulately posted on QZ in the past.



The author of the thread wasn't me so therefore I have no control over where it was posted. If there were mods on here it would have been moved to the personal section but there aren't unfortunately so people post stuff wherever they want and anything not of interest to me I just ignore. Tbh if there were mods on here I'd hope there wouldn't be endless page after page of rants either. On Queenonline there's a section for AL where people can post whatever they like, maybe someone should make one on here then the QAL section could remain for just that. To be clear I'm not defending her as such just can't see the point in 50 odd pages of the same endless arguments about something that's not even important to most people.



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Posted: 15 Dec 19, 09:38 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

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How she has managed to get you defending her, I don't know, it seems you have fallen for the she is the victim crap she tries to pull. What I said in particular about the 24th of November was in no way offensive, but two people here took it as an insult, one kept on spamming about AL, and two people hada go at me for it. Goes to show that they are not here for Freddie or Queen. It's Lambert. It's not even for Brian and Roger. Hell knows it's not for Freddie and Queen.


She hasn't managed to get me defending "her" but defending her right to be a fan of whoever she likes and that happens to be Adam and if she prefers him to original Queen (and I've no idea one way or the other about that) then that's her right as well.

No one can be forced to be a fan of any person/group or be still bothered about something that happened 28 years ago, some people just aren't made that way and my comments about the 24th were in relation to that. Some fans are very emotional and will go to Switzerland just to stand in front of a statue of Freddie or attend the party each year in Switzerland and probably think about him every day and still mourn as if he were a family member but there are other fans who loved the music, loved to see him live and were sad for him and the band when he died but have moved on and though still love the music don't feel that same sense of loss 28 years later and I daresay the same happens in real life, some people lose a partner and remarry after a couple of years, others can't ever contemplate being with someone else and still can't get over their loss until they die - there's no one way to be and no one way to be a fan and I would defend anyone's right not to be made to feel bad for being either way.

What some Queen fans seem not to understand is that there are fans of Adam who feel exactly the same about him as you and others do about Freddie and get just as defensive about him as Freddie fans do.

This particular thread was either done to trigger and in that case better ignored or she genuinely can't understand why everyone doesn't agree about Adam and is still better ignored just like someone not thinking Freddie was the best ever would be best ignored, it's one opinion and in the scheme of things meaningless.


Again, I understand not everyone feels the way I do. I find it disrespectful and distasteful that someone comes here just to purposely spam and promote AL, while ignoring the legacy of Freddie and Queen. There's only two people here who do that. Deliberate ignorance.
Sure, if I had money I'd go you Montreux to see Freddie's statue and other things too, the 24th is a day of reflection for me, doesn't mean I think of Freddie as a family member or anything like that. I'm sure if AL died suddenly and horribly like Freddie, his fans would be heartbroken, heck I'd be sad about myself. Some people mourn public figures. I was devastated when Bowie and George Michael passed away, because it was so unexpected. They left the world with some great music which is living on, and it's my hope that it will for decades yet.
I lost my father this year, he was my best friend, so I'm aware of what losing someone close is like. What I feel for Freddie is nothing compared to the loss of my father. Losing someone close is awful, I wouldn't wish it on anyone. I'm not that big of a hateful bitch.
I don't see how you can compare Queen and Freddie fans to Glamberts. It's not the same at all. I don't see Brian May fans tracking flights, crying foul over the least little thing, about how Brian smells. Sometimes the word Glambert can have bad connotations. I know you are an AL fan, but you are usually reasonable, and you and I have only started to disagree heavily in the last few weeks, and I'm sure I get on your nerves, but would you say you hate me because you and I disagree. I don't think you are that hysterical thankfully.
SweetCaroline knows full well what she is doing on Queen boards , stirring the shit and playing the victim. It's been going on for years. Her game is up. She's unhappy some people here can see right through her bullshit.

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Again, I understand not everyone feels the way I do. I find it disrespectful and distasteful that someone comes here just to purposely spam and promote AL, while ignoring the legacy of Freddie and Queen. There's only two people here who do that. Deliberate ignorance.
Sure, if I had money I'd go you Montreux to see Freddie's statue and other things too, the 24th is a day of reflection for me, doesn't mean I think of Freddie as a family member or anything like that. I'm sure if AL died suddenly and horribly like Freddie, his fans would be heartbroken, heck I'd be sad about myself. Some people mourn public figures. I was devastated when Bowie and George Michael passed away, because it was so unexpected. They left the world with some great music which is living on, and it's my hope that it will for decades yet.
I lost my father this year, he was my best friend, so I'm aware of what losing someone close is like. What I feel for Freddie is nothing compared to the loss of my father. Losing someone close is awful, I wouldn't wish it on anyone. I'm not that big of a hateful bitch.
I don't see how you can compare Queen and Freddie fans to Glamberts. It's not the same at all. I don't see Brian May fans tracking flights, crying foul over the least little thing, about how Brian smells. Sometimes the word Glambert can have bad connotations. I know you are an AL fan, but you are usually reasonable, and you and I have only started to disagree heavily in the last few weeks, and I'm sure I get on your nerves, but would you say you hate me because you and I disagree. I don't think you are that hysterical thankfully.
SweetCaroline knows full well what she is doing on Queen boards , stirring the shit and playing the victim. It's been going on for years. Her game is up. She's unhappy some people here can see right through her bullshit.


I really don't know what Brian or Roger's fans do or how far they would go, some of Adam's fans have gone nuts over meeting Brian though so maybe they're just that type of people who are over the top about a lot of things. I don't really get it personally, I've no desire to meet famous people in general and out of them Brian would be the one I'd be happiest to meet but I'd never go out of my way so it would only ever happen if it was pure accident and the main reason is because of his interest in animal rights, that's a subject close to my heart and I'd probably enjoy chatting about that with him. I've no desire to meet Adam personally, I like him as a person and love his voice but I wouldn't have the slightest thing in common with him and I certainly wouldn't go out of my way for a meet and greet with anyone, really not my thing so I don't really understand it in other people but each to their own if it makes them happy.

I don't hate you or anyone, opinions are just that and not a reason to hate someone, at least for me, I just get tired of the same arguments about what appears to me to be nothing important but then that's subjective as well so maybe I just don't feel as strongly about some things as others do.

I agree about losing someone close and I'm sorry about your dad, I lost my dad a few years ago, he was ill for a couple of years and I wouldn't wish watching someone go downhill like that on anyone.